when the backend has orrible performances :D
12 workers with the default heartbeat are easily taken care by a dual core 
4GB RAM backend (without anything beefy on top of that).

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 5:41:01 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack wrote:
>
> So after more investigation we are seeing that our load balanced server 
> with processes runnin on all three machines are causing a lot of deadlocks 
> in MSSQL. Have you seen that before?
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 2:40:35 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>
>> yep. your worker setup clearly can't stably be connected to your backend.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 7:41:38 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>
>>> so after some digging what i'm seeing is the sw.insert(...) is not 
>>> committing and the mybackedstatus is None, this happens 5 times and then 
>>> the worker appears and almost instantly disappers.  There are no errors.  i 
>>> tried manually doing a db.executesql but i'm having trouble getting 
>>> self.w_stats converted to something i can insert via sql.
>>>
>>> another things i'm noticing is my "distribution" in w_stats is None...
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to why this is happening?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:21:26 PM UTC-4, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>>
>>>> doing that now, what i'm seeing is some problems here:
>>>>
>>>>             # record heartbeat
>>>>            mybackedstatus = db(sw.worker_name == self
>>>> .worker_name).select().first()
>>>>            if not mybackedstatus:
>>>>                sw.insert(status=ACTIVE, worker_name=self.worker_name,
>>>>                          first_heartbeat=now, last_heartbeat=now,
>>>>                          group_names=self.group_names,
>>>>                          worker_stats=self.w_stats)
>>>>                self.w_stats.status = ACTIVE
>>>>                self.w_stats.sleep = self.heartbeat
>>>>                mybackedstatus = ACTIVE
>>>>
>>>> mybackedstatus is consistently coming back as "None" i'm guessing 
>>>> there is an error somewhere in that try block and the db commit is being 
>>>> rolled back
>>>>
>>>> i'm using MSSQL and nginx... currently upgrading web2py to see it 
>>>> continues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 10:44:28 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> turn on workers debugging level and grep for errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 4:38:31 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we have this scenario happening:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21searchin/web2py/task_id%7csort:relevance/web2py/AYH5IzCIEMo/hY6aNplbGX8J
>>>>>>
>>>>>> our workers seems to be restarting quickly and we're trying to figure 
>>>>>> out why
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 3:55:55 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> small recap.......a single worker is tasked with assigning tasks 
>>>>>>> (the one with is_ticker=True) and then that task is picked up only by 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> assigned worker (you can see it on the 
>>>>>>> scheduler_task.assigned_worker_name 
>>>>>>> column of the task). 
>>>>>>> There's no way the same task (i.e. a scheduler_task "row") is 
>>>>>>> executed while it is RUNNING (i.e. processed by some worker).
>>>>>>> The process running the task is stored also in 
>>>>>>> scheduler_run.worker_name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <tl;dr> you shouldn't EVER have scheduler_run records with the same 
>>>>>>> task_id and 12 different worker_name all in the RUNNING status.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For a single task to be processed by ALL 12 workers at the same 
>>>>>>> time... is quite impossible, if everything is running smoothly. And 
>>>>>>> frankly 
>>>>>>> I can't fathom any scenario in which it is possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 6:25:41 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I only see the task_id in the scheduler_run table, it seems to be 
>>>>>>>> added as many times as it can while the run is going... a short run 
>>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>>> add just 2 of the workers and stop adding them once the initial run is 
>>>>>>>> completed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 11:15:52 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> task assignment is quite "beefy" (sadly, or fortunately in your 
>>>>>>>>> case, it favours consistence vs speed) : I don't see any reason why a 
>>>>>>>>> single task gets picked up by ALL of the 12 workers at the same time 
>>>>>>>>> if the 
>>>>>>>>> backend isn't lying (i.e. slaves not replicating master data),.... if 
>>>>>>>>> your 
>>>>>>>>> mssql is "single", there shouldn't absolutely be those kind of 
>>>>>>>>> problems...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you sure all are crunching the same exact task (i.e. same task 
>>>>>>>>> id and uuid) ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 2:47:11 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using nginx and MSSQL for the db
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:11:11 AM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing in particular. what backend are you using ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 8:35:17 PM UTC+2, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         task = scheduler.queue_task(tab_run, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pvars=dict(tab_file_name=tab_file_name, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the_form_file=the_form_file), 
>>>>>>>>>>>> timeout=60 * 60 * 24, sync_output=2, immediate=False, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> group_name=scheduler_group_name)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything look amiss here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 2:14:38 PM UTC-4, Dave S wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 9:38:09 AM UTC-7, Jason Solack 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, i am having a situation where my scheduled jobs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are being picked up by multiple workers.  My last task was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picked up by all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 workers and is crushing the machines.  This is a load 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> balanced machine 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with 3 machine and 4 workers on each machine.  has anyone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experienced 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help in advance!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What does your queue_task() code look like?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

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