AchipA, formify is close to how I deal with customization only manually. Designers I have dealt with are expecting to work with <div> and <span> elements and manipulate css to match their needs. Having a tool similar in concept to SQLFORM that output <div>, <span> formatting instead would be a nice to have. Maybe even take it up a notch to generate the 'default' custom css file for the designer to manipulate. 95% of the time how SQLForm formats the fields is exactly right. In which case the underlying how does not matter. That other 5% generally do consider the how important to the presentation.
It would push Web2Py a bit higher than CakePHP and Django. On Jun 30, 6:17 am, AchipA <attila.cs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to re-float some old ideas... > > http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/99afdeb834... > > This approach was 'invented' to completely separate the view from any > helper funk that goes on in the controllers, thereby giving designers > (using just about any tool) the freedom to design their forms as they > wish given they comply with some naming conventions/id's. > > On Jun 29, 4:55 pm, Peterle <newsv...@tiscali.it> wrote: > > > I think I have understood: > > for a graphic-people point of view, it is normal "opening" a html > > file with dreamweaver and change it. Graphic-guys here wanted, > > probably, "open" web2py files inside Dreamweaver, like a normal > > project of Dreamweaver, to change his graphical aspect, only that. > > > This is not easy to do with files taken from dynamic websites... > > then... > > > -------------------- > > On Jun 29, 3:47 pm, ceej <cjlaz...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > I would just like to say that, web2py is a python programming > > > framework not a designing one and it's a lot easier to use than most. > > > I can implement the greatest of design that any designer could dream > > > up with ease. I do not understand when you say "the html views could > > > perhaps bit more html and less python" because they are pure html/css > > > when rendered and using the html helpers you can add any ids/classes > > > you want which is what you need to integrate a design. (You can also > > > use any other python html template plugin out there with web2py like > > > genshi etc..). > > > > I've also seen other threads where people are going on about jquery > > > and they want more integration/widgets for it etc... This is again > > > where I would like to say web2py is a python programming framework not > > > a javascript one. jQuery comes included yes but you can use any > > > javascript framework with web2py you want (I use extjs as well as > > > jquery), web2py has jquery included as I would like to call an example > > > and I think a lot of people get confused about that for some reason. > > > > I feel if we stray to much from web2py being a "python programming > > > framework" we'll loose sight of what web2py was meant to be in the > > > first place which is an an "enterprise framework for agile development > > > of fast, secure and portable database-driven web-based applications. > > > Written and programmable in Python". > > > > P.S. Thank you again Massimo for starting such a great python > > > framework! :D > > > > On Jun 29, 6:18 am, "Hans Donner" <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > fully agree with this. > > > > However, the html views could perhaps be a bit more html and less > > > > python so most html tools could be used to build them and without > > > > needing much conversions. As indicated, how the java tapestry framework > > > > did this is very nice and we could perhaps borrow some ideas from them. > > > > > if youre less drag&drop and more source oriented, the current way is > > > > perfect and easy to learn. > > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > > > > From: annet <annet.verm...@gmail.com> > > > > To: web2py Web Framework <web2py@googlegroups.com> > > > > Sent: 29/06/2009, 10:09:26 > > > > Subject: [web2py:25222] Re: Web2py is not too designer friendly? > > > > > I appreciate web2py as it is. In the past I worked with Adobe GoLive, > > > > NetBeans, JDeveloper and ADF and Filemaker. Beautiful software, I > > > > implemented use case after use case by simply dragging and dropping > > > > components and clicking my way through dialog boxes. However, the > > > > moment I wanted to adjust the generated code I was overwhelmed by the > > > > amount of code the software had generated in different files. > > > > > Web2py is the first framework that allows me to implement my > > > > application the way I designed it, my lack of Python knowledge is the > > > > limit, not the framework. I love building my own views in html, css > > > > and js keeping structure, style and action separated, something none > > > > of these IDE's complied with. > > > > > I hope web2py will stay as 'clean' as it is, and not become another > > > > 'NetBeansese' IDE. > > > > > Annet. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
