I understand the general concept but I still miss the point. the HTML
generated by {{=form}} can be replaced by the HTML generated with
dreamweaver (*) and this is decoupled from the validation process that
happens in the controller.

(*) you have to make sure your form includes {{=form.hidden_fields}},
somwhere displays {{=form.errors}} and fields have the proper names,
values, and classes.

I guess I do not see how they could be more friendlier. Can you give a
concrete example? I do not see how web2py gets in the way of forms.

Massimo


On Jun 28, 4:39 pm, Pystar <aitoehi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> By saying designer friendly i mean being able to design my forms, web
> pages with whatever tool i want (e.g dreamweaver, photoshop) and still
> have access to web2py's validators and other helpers without using a
> walk around like "custom forms"
> Pystar
>
> On Jun 28, 9:52 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure I understand what you mean by "designer friendly" could
> > you explain?
>
> > On Jun 28, 3:16 pm, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > > the only framework/templating I found very html-designer friendly is
> > > tapestry (a java one), now an apache project.
>
> > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Pystar<aitoehi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I have been using web2py now since 2007 and i have found the framework
> > > > to be exceptional. My only grouse with it is that it is not too
> > > > designer friendly. I come from a web designer back ground and i always
> > > > like to design the interface first but with web2py, it seems that
> > > > Massimo who is an exceptional programmer allowed his programming bent
> > > > to influence how users of the framework design their web
> > > > applications.
> > > > I find using custom forms not too intuitive and free flowing and would
> > > > have liked to have web2py support you designing your web interface
> > > > first using whatever tool (i.e. dreamweaver, photoshop) before doing
> > > > the backend.
> > > > I might be wrong in my summation but i stand to be corrected
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Pystar
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