Yesterday i had a good example where a "visual" representation saved my
hour.


I have an app (not in web2py) with a form
This form has 940 fields inside it.

They are distributed among many tables, and some tables have inner tables
and so on and so on.
We navigate to the each table  and inner table using its "tab"

My boss came to me to change the looks and add some more fields.

As i have a visual designer we spent time only talking about the looks of
the form, my boss never saw me coding and i didnt have to tell him to come
back later because i have some hundred lines of code to generate a form
with 940 fields and needed time to look at all that code.

Its good for me, and better for my boss that gets the job done quicker.












2014-12-17 10:43 GMT+00:00 Michele Comitini <[email protected]>:
>
>
> Leonel: +1 ;-)
>
> Visual programming reminds me of the nice presentations you see at the
> board of directors in a company:  each one of the members comes out with a
> completely different interpretation.
> Think about UML that had exactly that ultimate goal.  Thousands of
> (written) pages to define UML itself.  The result? dead in the water.  No
> one tries to describe a full application by UML today forget about using it
> to generate instructions for a CPU.
>
> I personally trust a computer language in being completely objective and
> deterministic from the start.  Aggregation of logical expressions  and
> abstraction is easy to do in modern languages (not assembly) and that is
> more true with Python.  You can use a name in place of  a symbol to express
> a lot of things and save a lot of writing and be DRY.
>
> YET it is nice to have a visualization that gives us (the programmers) to
> summarize many informations at glance:  our brain is very good in finding
> the odd among a set of evens by looking at it.  It is helpful to write (by
> hand IMHO) better code in many occasions.  Just to say that Antonio has
> some good points on his side, also.
>
>
>
>
> 2014-12-17 11:02 GMT+01:00 António Ramos <[email protected]>:
>>
>> +1
>> to code a webpage in assembly :P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-12-17 7:26 GMT+00:00 Manuele Pesenti <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>> Il 16/12/14 17:51, Leonel Câmara ha scritto:
>>> > Frankly, I abhor most "visual" tools for programmers
>>> +1 :)
>>>
>>>     M.
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