Django, Rails and ASP.Net, all have community-generated 'template' (scaffolding) apps and demo-apps for many of the popular client-side frameworks that had emerged in the last 2-3 years. The Breeze middle-ware, also has many different front-ends and back-ends integration examples.
Does web2py have a repository that exemplifies specific frameworks-integration? I know about the plugins repository, and the built-by-web2py website, but It's not exactly what I'm looking for - it's not a substitute, but a complementary kind of repository. It's one thing to have examples that express different *internal*capabilities of your framework, and have components that people can use as a starting-point for implementing their own solution using the same mechanism. It's another thing entirely to have different starting-point-apps, each targeting a different client-side framework. The 'Welcome' app has notoriously been a target for endless debates of weather or not to add this-or-that library-support, but I think we've been going about it in the wrong way - it's not about a 'single-welcome-app-to-rule-hem-all' - it's about variety - it's about options. If you are, say, an Angular.js developer, looking for a back-end solution, you're going to look for server-side solutions that already have "examples" that integrate-well with your client-side frameworks. It is so prevelant these days, that it has become something to be expected. You are not going to go through the due-diligence of coming-up with an integration yourself, especially when you don't know the server-side framework well enough to do so to begin with.... You are thus going to choose Django, or RoR, or ASP.Net-MVC - just because there are already existing scaffold-apps implementing the integration for that server-side framework (the plumbings). You are NOT going to choose web2py, and NOT because it is a poorer choice (it isn't), and NOT even because it is difficult to implement such an integration (you are not going to know that it isn't...). Conversely, If you are a web2py all-around-web-developer, waning to write, say, an Ember.js app, you are going to look for a scaffold that already shows how to do that. And you are not going to find any... At least I haven't... This is really unfortunate... I think it is really detrimental to web2py's popularity. I am in an on-going process of researching SPA frameworks in order to make a decision on weather or not it is worth the effort of converting our existing web2py into using one of those, as our client-side code is in sour need of 'structure' for maintainability and testability. I have already learned quite a lot about Backbone, Angular, Ember and Durandal (which uses Knockout among others). But I keep coming back to this question of - which one would be most suited for web2py as a back-end? Which could be best integrated with it? And I can't seem to get an answer to that, as there are no examples to go through to figure it out. And so, instead of just ranting, I decided to do something about it. But I will not be able to do that alone - I'm going to need help. My plan is to start a few projects, that show how these client-side frameworks can interact with web2py, and in the process, generate some 'client-side-framework'-specific code in python using web2py I call it " js2py ", which is an umbrella-term describing different 'javascript-framework-target'-projects' for web2py - for example: "Ember2py" - Would be the name of a project entailing integration-code for Ember.js. "Angular2py" - Would be the same for Angular.js. "Durandal2py" - Would be the same for Durandal.js Etc... I am going to start with Durandal, but before that, there would have be 2 smaller projects: "Require2py" and "Knockout2py" - As requier.js and knockout.js are pre-requisites of Durandal.js. In a similar manner, for Ember.js, there is going to have to be a pre-project of "Handlebars2py" and/or "Emblem2py" for integrating web2pt's views with Ember's template-technologies. For Angular2py and Knockout2py, there will be targeted sub-classes for the HTML-Helpers, for adding attributes more conveniently - either in the controller-actions and/or the Python code in the views. I already toyed with the idea a while back, and got Massimo's blessing... :) So, It's going to be an interesting, challenging and exciting ride... Who's with me? -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
