hold still a few hours, I'm going to submit a patch for request that uses 
lazy evaluation of vars (ala web3py): should be a good occasion to do a 
general cleanup of all those bits !?

On Friday, August 2, 2013 4:12:23 PM UTC+2, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
> On 2 Aug 2013, at 12:11 AM, Massimo Di Pierro 
> <massimo....@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Our policy is that request.env is just the wsgi environment, without 
> computed variables.
>
>
> Except for fixup_missing_path_info.
>
> Perhaps this?
>
> if not request.env.content_type and request.env.http_content_type:
>     request.content_type = request.env.http_content_type
> else:
>     request.content_type = request.http_content_type
>
>
> Are you suggesting a new request variable to hold content_type? 
>
> I don't think we really need to do that, and regardless that's not the 
> right logic. The server is not required to give us env.http_content_type 
> (nor *any* content_type if there's no content). If we really, really want 
> request.content_type:
>
> if request.env.content_type:
>     request.content_type = request.env.content_type
> elif request.env.http_content_type:
>     request.content_type = request.env.http_content_type
>
>
> There are two issues here. 
>
> 1. web2py has a bug: it's using env.http_content_type to set is_json, and 
> it should be using env.content_type. That's because the server is required 
> to give us env.content_type (if there's content; note that we don't get 
> env.content_type for a GET), but is not required to give us 
> env.http_content_type. The fix is easy; just change the is_json line to use 
> the right variable.
>
> wrong: is_json = env.get('http_content_type', '')[:16] == 
> 'application/json' 
> right: is_json = env.get('content_type', '')[:16] == 'application/json'
> or: is_json = env.get('http_content_type', 
> '').startswith('application/json')
> (because I don't like magic numbers)
>  
>
> 2. Phantom issue: should we try to anticipate servers that do not behave 
> as they're required to do, that is, give us env.http_content_type but not 
> env.content_type? We don't actually know that such servers exist; hopefully 
> not. However, if it *did* happen (we get env.http_content_type and not 
> env.content_type), then it's obvious what to do. So do we do it 
> proactively? 
>
> We do it already for fcgi in fixup_missing_path_info, and that may be a 
> (policy) mistake. It's obscure, there's no good way of testing it, and we 
> don't know whether there's a single web2py installation using a broken 
> server that doesn't have path_info. But we're sorta stuck with it, because 
> taking it out might break something, somewhere (maybe it should have gone 
> in fcgihandler in the first place).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 1 August 2013 14:44:30 UTC-5, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>>
>> On 1 Aug 2013, at 12:30 PM, Niphlod <nip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ok. so to be on the safe side if env.http_content_type and 
>> env.http_content_length are provided gluon.main should update the env 
>> accordingly, and then the code can happily always use env.content_length 
>> and env.content_type
>>
>>
>> That would be the idea. I don't actually like the extra complication, but 
>> the thought that somebody might be relying on bogus behavior makes me just 
>> *slightly* nervous.
>>
>> I'd either to this (pseudo-code):
>>
>> if not env.content_type and env.http_content_type:
>>     env.content_type = env.http_content_type
>>
>> ...and so on. That is, don't touch variables that the server has already 
>> set.
>>
>> I wouldn't argue to hard for not doing that, though, esp. if Massimo's OK 
>> with leaving it out. Which would mean just changing our is_json test to 
>> look at content_type. (I scanned the rest of the source, and that seems to 
>> be the only place this happens.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:21:28 PM UTC+2, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1 Aug 2013, at 12:11 PM, Niphlod <nip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ok, thanks for the additional explanation. 
>>>
>>> tl;dr: As we don't "want to support" any breaking-spec servers (+1 on 
>>> that), the only thing to take care of is to rely for both content-type and 
>>> content-length headers to be directly on env and not expecting them to be 
>>> neither http_content_length nor http_content_type.
>>>
>>> did I get that clear ? 
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. 
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I entirely agree about broken servers, though. Paraphrasing 
>>> Postel's Law, ""Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you 
>>> accept." 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:03:34 PM UTC+2, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Aug 2013, at 11:51 AM, Niphlod <nip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> @derek and @dhmorgan: actually what Iceberg posted is fine, it's really 
>>>> a subtle bug that needs to be addressed as per the docs posted by out own 
>>>> omniscient Jonathan, that can happen with some particular (although 
>>>> allowed) server architectures.
>>>>
>>>> @jonathan: before diving in rocket's own "patching of spec-breaking 
>>>> servers", is there any other header we need to address ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> content_size is the other one in this category.
>>>>
>>>> A clarification, though: Rocket is not patching spec-breaking servers; 
>>>> it's just a server complying with the spec, which mandates content_type if 
>>>> the client has supplied one (which would optionally appear as 
>>>> http_content_type).
>>>>
>>>> A spec-breaking server would be one that does not include content_type 
>>>> when one is provided by the client.
>>>>
>>>> The bug is that web2py relies on http_content_type, even though the 
>>>> spec does not require the server to include it. 
>>>>
>>>> My comment about working around a spec break is purely hypothetical, 
>>>> and applies to the case where the client provides Content-Type, and the 
>>>> server passes that along as http_content_type (as it should, but is not 
>>>> required to do) and does not also pass it as content_type (which it *is* 
>>>> required to do). 
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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