On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:18:50 PM UTC-7, Anthony wrote: > If you take into account what's said in this talk - that basically the ORM >> and the CORE in SQLA are 2 separate beasts - than if follows what I've been >> saying here, that the web2py-DAL is equivalent just to the CORE, and has no >> features that the ORM provides whatsoever. > > > I'm not sure that follows. The web2py DAL has a lot of features that might > otherwise be found in an ORM. I'm not very familiar with SQLA, but I > suspect the DAL has some features not present in CORE but similar to > functionality included in the ORM. >
I wouldn't be so sure about that... You should really check out the links I've posted in this thread - SQLA-Core is a fully-fledged DAL. Reddit is using it alone, without any of the ORM level... And again, it may be a matter of semantics, but there is no ORM feature in the DAL - I've been going over the documentation and asking lost of questing talking to Massimo - it's pretty conclussive - iweb2py's DAL is exclusively-stateless... > > You might also consider trying SQLA directly in place of the DAL > <shameless copy-paste from my answer to Derek:> I know that, but well, you see, there lies the problem - I DON'T want... I love the DAL too much - wouldn't change it for anything! :) (not even SQLA-Core...;) ) I even considered using web2py's DAL outside of web2py as well - in all the plug-ins I plan to write for desktop-applications. It's an amazing and elegant piece of software! Besides, it's not feasible for us anymore anyways, as I said, we already have thousands of lines of code built using the DAL - switching it to something else would be a nightmare, and way too costly. we have DAL-based code more than any other python code - hell, we would be switching a web-framework before we consider replacing the DAL... :) All I want is a decent ORM on-top to structure all that wonderful DAL code we have into... But it has to be statefull to be worth-it, so I couldn't write my own, and SQLA-ORM is the best ORM in python I currently know of... I am looking at Storm also, but it currently seems to be less-modular that SQLA... That's from just a glance, though. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.