On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Joe Barnhart <joe.barnh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yarko -- > > I can't say about others, but for me the key missing features in the > wiki are: > .......... > > I don't want anyone to feel like I'm telling them what to do. I am > just a messenger, bearing the bad news that we still do not have > significant community involvement in solving our documentation > dilemma. While I am becoming more proficient at reading Python ;-), I > believe we need more accessible documentation if we are ever to take > on Django or PHP. > Joe - I understand... I think constructive ideas (that kind of "telling what to do, and why - that counts the benefit of all involved" --- this in my book is VERY GOOD, VERY DESIREABLE! ;-). I should clarify - I threw away a quite angry response to rev's post - this is what I was reacting to. He suggested a (!) J2EE wiki (gag!); That post used words, which cumulatively I felt quite angry about - but I threw away my response when I realized it was probably not ill-intentioned (I looked at his posts and trouble w/ another python framework, and re-installing python several times, and decided to just let it slide). None-the-less, so that the group can see what I see - these are more than social or communication issues, they are clarity of speaking and description which directly affect design issues, so I notice them very much for those reasons. Phrases from that post which criticized, but added nothing: - ...worth to reinvent the wheel? - ...you realize you're a long way from a polished product. - Time and effort can better be spent on... - ...focus on a consistent stable and... - Don't scatter your efforts... There was no "here's what I suggest"; ther was no "here's why I think that would be better..." It was just criticism, opinion, complaining.... Criticising to make a project better is great stuff. When you care about the project, care about others, it shows - and works. This is what I see from Massimo most all the time, and learn from him more than from the code - it is a powerful lesson. Criticising so your ego feels better - that is, so you can "explain away" your difficulties to yourself, and think "it's them, not me..." --- is just hot air. I accept that the latter happens (we are human; _I_ do that sometimes; it's my sign to me that I don't understand something and need to ask more questions); I don't like when the latter grabs a position and begins to get repeated by others. Hope that helps clarify. - Yarko --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
