Recently was a bit messy the SQLFORM.[smart]grid because a class changed 
from button to btn :-o

Because we need to maintain backward compatibility but the used css 
framework for welcome can change significantly I think that maintaining a 
web framework's own class names could be beneficial. So than the webapp's 
less/css can handle all web framework related class names and use it with 
recent css framework.


2012. október 4., csütörtök 15:01:11 UTC+2 időpontban Niphlod a következőt 
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>
> I think the point stated is correct, but I don't remember having an html 
> template that is interoperable and modify all the looks with just only css 
> changes.
>
> Yes, zengarden is known to me and for simple pages you may have template 
> and css that are decoupable, but with standard websites it's futile to 
> develop a html template without class declarations (with javascript and 
> canvas and fonts, the thing just got worse :D)
> If only existed one standard way to interpret css rules and behaviours, 
> and only one screen size, maybe we could have arrived to decouple structure 
> from presentation completely. But we had to deal with IE back in the days, 
> now with mobiles, etc,etc,etc.
>
> I know very little about css and I use frameworks to let my site look 
> good. If I wanted it to look "cool", I'd surely go with my own styles. But 
> I'm not a web designer. And spending time to find that one css rule that 
> makes all browsers behave in the same way ... seems time wasted.
>
> Yes, less mixins are good, but ....I want to use "sidebar" and my css uses 
> "sidebar-left": are we sure that my convention is better than the one on 
> the framework itself (and when I'll have to change my css, will I retain 
> that name at all)?
>
> Css frameworks are used all around the web and quite all of them have 
> classes going around (960.gs, blueprint, yurb, ez, etc) so when you're 
> deploying your html you must "follow" their conventions (if you want to use 
> css frameworks at all).
>  
> I'm sure I would spend more time on re-making my own css (and tweaks, 
> copying styles around and assigning them according to my "naming 
> convention") than adopting a new css framework and adjusting my html 
> template to match the "class-naming conventions" of that framework.
>
> Additionally, if you don't write HTML by hand but you use some templating 
> system, that change in "html structure" means practically no time at all.
>
>
>

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