Hi Massimo,

I can fully understand your motivation and will keep a fan and
supporter of your baby. A different point of view could potentially be
to use community contribution to drive/update/test the web2py
documentation (the bleeding edge version) and use the community-tested
(stable version) in consolidated fashion for print publication. When I
remember right then Stefan Wintermeyer from Germany is using this
approach with his book
http://www.amazon.de/Asterisk-1-4-1-6-Installation-Programmierung/dp/3827326990/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237905177&sr=1-1
while the 'open unstable' community version can be found at
http://www.das-asterisk-buch.de

Sorry that example is with German content only. But hey, doesn't
RedHat support and use Fedora because of a similar reason.

Yes I've to admit I'd love to see web2py scaling massively in adoption
and I guess the community can and would love to help.

Just my 2 cents on that.

Cheers,
Hans

On Mar 24, 3:03 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> I have the copyright on the book but I also have an understanding that
> I would not give it away for free or it will go out of print. Creators
> of other framework make their living by consulting. I make my living
> in the academic. A published book is necessary to justify the time I
> spent/spend on web2py. I do not make much money from it so that is not
> an issue.
>
> There has also been a lot of talk about the wiki, etc. I welcome this
> and I welcome more community effort nevertheless, different people
> want different things. If it takes more time for me to set-up and
> maintain things, I could as well spend the time improving the book.
>
> I think one thing is the book (and I care about that for my
> profession) and one think is the wiki (necessary to describe new
> features and community involvement). I do not think they should be
> merged. This is not final and I will give the issue some more thought.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Mar 23, 5:55 am, Baron <richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I would stay away from this kind of posting.  At worst, you are presuming 
> > > a
> > > legal position on how to take copyrighted material without consequences.
>
> > Perhaps Massimo could step in to clarify his position to prevent
> > speculation. So far I've read that he needs to publish for the
> > university, but it is possible to publish and give away
> > simultaneously, as the Django Book shows.
>
> > Clearly a lot of time was spent on the manual so it is understandable
> > for a person to want to maintain ownership. However Massimo also spent
> > a lot of time on web2py but still gave it away.
>
> > The wiki right now is still pretty empty and doesn't look like
> > approaching the coverage of the manual for a long time. So, would it
> > be possible to kick start the documentation effort by allowing the
> > copying of text sections from the manual?
>
> > Baron
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