mmm....

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bill -
> Sorry - I was sort of in shock when read my own comments (remind me not to
> right when I'm tired!) - but I am glad you could understand them.
>

.... to write when I'm tired!).....

.....

>
>> 2) Comments are not part of the model anyway and I don't see that
>> replacing the 'col3' passed to SQLFORM with 'comments' passed from the
>> view is a problem.
>
>
> I think you are being too literal - comments as used are descriptive, about
> the intent of the data item, and as such are about "form" not format.   I
> would not change this for now, focus instead on separating out the
> commitment of data change so that there is explicit controller level control
> - this is the clearest, most beneficial step.  When that's complete, then
> attack other parts.
>
>>
>>
additionally,  I would like to separate discussion about "label" and
"comment" on model  (and if there is or isn't a better way to express form)
from what SQLFORM does or doesn't do with that, etc.

I see these as distinctly separate topics.

That is:

- There is more to the form/shape of data - that is the model - than just
data table definitions (e.g. there are constraints, descriptors, etc.);
 discussion of ways to represent this is one topic;

- who is / should be dependent on (getting)  and responsible for (changing,
setting) the aspects of a data model is another topic.   I think the most
important part of what you propose to address is making interfaces for
"setting" more explicitly in the controller spaces.

- what constitutes presentation, and belongs there (formatting; presentation
control logic; etc.) is also a separate discussion.

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