Thanks Yarko. I like the 'Its All Text' plugin but I guess my
intention was more to propose a new feature than to solve the actual
problem :) I was also thinking of a more automated solution. I use
wing for most of my debugging but would love to see the web editor
strive for feature parity with a basic desktop editor (code
completion, versioning, etc...).
On Nov 20, 2:06 pm, "Yarko Tymciurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> also, it's simple... and "it's done!".
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > try the "Its All Text" plugin for Firefox - just toggle the editor when it
> > comes up in the browser, and you'll have the little chicklet "edit" button
> > on the bottom right of the form.
> > That's fast, and already solved.
>
> > It works sort of like this:
>
> > Session-form encoded filename created. You edit that. "IAT" watches it -
> > if it changes, it fills in the form for you.
>
> > If you loose power, leave the screen, come back to the same page - you can
> > still "write" that file from your editor (when the form is present) and it
> > will get transfered to the browser for you.
>
> > Of course, you can save the file as many times as you want, as any
> > alternate name as you want (locally).
>
> > Try it - it's fun!
>
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM, mr.freeze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Hitting back in Firefox didn't work for me. Maybe because the file is
> >> re-read on each page load. The method I am working on saves the 3
> >> most recent versions as backups and adds a Restore button (next to
> >> Save) and select that lets you choose which file to restore. Not very
> >> elegant but functional.
>
> >> On Nov 20, 1:39 pm, "Yarko Tymciurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Yes - VCS calling interface is what I remember, and I think it is a good
> >> > idea (if integrated well).
> >> > For client-end editing "from the web" with some sort of reasonable undo
> >> that
> >> > is more reliable than the browser, I suggest (ahem - hard to do, since
> >> I've
> >> > been using Chrome the past few months) using Firefox, with the "its all
> >> > text" plugin - that lets you edit any form "offline" in an editor of
> >> your
> >> > choosing (e.g. vi).
>
> >> > Only problem w/ that - when editing w/ web2py, you have to constantly
> >> > change to "text" mode for "its all text" to come up / work. Would be
> >> nice
> >> > for those people if this default (what comes up when you edit) was
> >> > configurable.
>
> >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:32 PM, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > > Yarko, maybe including is the wrong word if Massimo is referring to my
> >> > > VCS web2py patch. I'm providing a mechanism to call whatever
> >> > > underlying VCS you are using in the project. It's just making web2py
> >> > > smart enough to detect different VCS files, and putting a button or
> >> > > two on some of the admin pages to do update/commit/revert (by calling
> >> > > the adequate VCS modules or simply executing a shell command). I've
> >> > > already done it for subversion and bazaar, and it's just a couple of
> >> > > minutes of work to add anybody's favourite. It's very unwieldy (like
> >> > > any VCS) to use for edit/save/run type of development.
>
> >> > > I personally think the back button is something that you should not
> >> > > rely on (for whatever purpose). With any fairly recent web2.0 site it
> >> > > will only wreak havoc as 'back' is not really the 'back' the user
> >> > > might think it is. I'm generally not a great fan of using web-based
> >> > > editors for serious work, but that's probably just my VI addiction
> >> > > speaking.
>
> >> > > On Nov 20, 7:13 pm, "Yarko Tymciurak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:52 AM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > Let me think about. I thought we were going to include a real
> >> version
> >> > > > > control system eventually.
>
> >> > > > We've had this discussion in the past: it makes no sense to
> >> "include" a
> >> > > VCS
> >> > > > in web2py (too many people have favorites).
>
> >> > > > It _can_ make sense to write a unified interface, so that you can
> >> "plug
> >> > > in"
> >> > > > your favorite VCS (and location of repository).
>
> >> > > > Once that is in place, it would be nice to version projects - but
> >> even
> >> > > so, I
> >> > > > would do this on-demand ("checkin").
>
> >> > > > This kind of editing "undo" is probably another layer of behavior,
> >> > > distinct
> >> > > > and different from what a VCS is for. If you look (for example) at
> >> > > > docs.google.com, when editing a file, auto-save is in effect for
> >> some
> >> > > time
> >> > > > period. If you look at your document's history, you can see a
> >> "session"
> >> > > > might have 4 or 5 (or more) saves, and inspecting each, you can see
> >> that
> >> > > > they grabbed something you were in the middle of.
>
> >> > > > I'm not sure we want / need to get that elaborate (or do we?).
>
> >> > > > Think about implementing a simple 'undo' mechanism first - something
> >> > > beyond
> >> > > > browser back, short of an auto-saved versioning system (which I
> >> think
> >> > > would
> >> > > > be too big a distraction for web2py).- Hide quoted text -
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