I have tried Eclipse, I have tried Komodo (it's good for perl),
but I really like WingIDE - I can actually figure out how to GET places with
it -
and I like iPython  ttp://ipython.scipy.org/moin/
<http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/>
iPython has code completion (if you hit TAB) - it's handy when you do test /
debugging from command line like this:  python web2py -S myapp -M

Once, I thought about making iPython console always be there for web2py
development;  I'll have to finish looking at that...

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Wes James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Yarko, that's a good idea to get a debugger!
>
> thanks for your help!
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I might suggest this:
> > Go to www.wingware.com
> > Get WingIDE 101 (it's a free version).
> > You can run web2py directly from it.
> > Fire up some application of yours that requires some input - and stop the
> > debugger when you get to the input page.   Make the input in question in
> the
> > browser, and then single step thru the entire accepts, all the way, avoid
> > going down into gluon code at first (use step over, rather than
> step-into),
> > watch - inspect!  variables.... if you get bored - set breakpoints in
> > interesting places, stop, and restart the web2py app all over...
> > Grab a beer (if you drink)  and have LOTS of FUN!  ;-)
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> .......
> >>>> Now, all you need to do is think presentation:   what condition from
> the
> >>>> server (controller / model) do I want to check, and what presentation
> (view)
> >>>> response will I build from it?
> >>>
> >>> Hope this didn't confuse:
> >>> I wrote from client.... I meant from server - at that instant you're
> >>> preparing instructions for rendering to a client "somewhere very
> distant on
> >>> the network"  - you're preparing a mini-snapshot...
> >>
> >> .... and what happens "behind the scenes" with that {{=form}} is AT THAT
> >> INSANT the template code converts your template into valid  HTML/XHTML
> to
> >> send down to that distant client...
> >> key being:   SNAPSHOT.... AT THAT INSTANT...
> >> It helps if you can visualize the ENGINE behind this... what "gears" are
> >> churning, and when ... how it all happens... then it will REALLY start
> >> making sense, and you'll be all the more grateful for all the manual
> things
> >> that you do NOT have to think about.... but right now, it might help to
> >> think about the details for a little bit... until the machine feels
> somewhat
> >> natural, automatic (like driving stick shift).
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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