Thanks for your answer Price, I guess we should not delay this discussion...
I'd happy to run another call if you think it can move things forward. 2016-10-01 18:40 GMT+02:00 Price Clark <gpwcl...@gmail.com>: > Pablo, thanks for the presentation. > > While my qualifications to answer this are 0 getting to listen to > Upayavira talk this week (the last Apache mentor if I'm not mistaken) make > me feel the answers to 1 and 2 are easy to answer. > > 1.) Upayavira communicated very fervently that there just isn't enough > oomph in wave's development. Every year around the time that the retirement > conversation is brought up, activity similar to this starts brewing and > then it all dies down in a few months. From this perspective "Does SwellRT > tackle current Wave problems?" The answer is unequivocally yes, SwellRT is > a more actively maintained fork of Wave and given the slowing/slowed pace > of Wave *a merge with SwellRT is likely the only way to save this project*. > > 2.) I would also like to bring up another point Upayavira made, > "Communities are built around good ideas and bad code." Running with that I > thing that good ideas attract tinkerers and 'people with ideas' that could > eventually become 'contributors with ideas'. In some senses SwellRT > splinters Apache Wave in a way that developers on this mailing list have > been alluding to for a while. The client side code is not well understood > and is definitely in the way of the server. SwellRT has a more general goal > of supplying a server that is capable of powering a front-end like the > original vision of google wave. This means that merging with SwellRT would > force a separation of the client and server and allow for people with > interests in either a front or back end to work in tandem. This seems like > an ingenious way to attract more people; anyone with an interest in the > backend technology OR a way to use said technology in an application could > be a potential contributor. Unless I'm mistaken it seems like SwellRT > offers a set of features that could be classified as a superset of Wave's > features. So, it seems like most or all of SwellRT would be at home in > Wave. Pablo also reasonably stated that he'd prefer to work in one project. > > As for me, as soon as a direction is clear I would love to talk to > someone actively maintaining/writing code so I can help them contribute to > whichever code survives in whatever way possible. >