On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Alfredo Abambres <alfredoabamb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i am just going to go ahead and start a wave on my own wave server that >> will be a brainstorm and discussion area for wave. if anyone wants to join >> up its at http://7rnx.net:9898 i am te...@7rnx.net if you register on it >> and tell me your username ill add you to that wave. >> > > Thanks for your suggestion, > but wouldn't be better to use > http://waveinabox.net/<http://waveinabox.net/auth/signin?r=/> for > that purpose? It's the demo server/client listed on the Apache Wave site, > some of us are already there and I think some discussions already happen > there (mostly feedback on the WIAB client). > > I personally don't use it much (I spend more time on Rizzoma - sorry)... > but if the idea is too centralize and engage more people, that ( > http://waveinabox.net/ <http://waveinabox.net/auth/signin?r=/>) would be a > better choice. What do you think?
Developing software within Apache does mean we are accepting some basic rules the way we work. One is for example to use ASF infrastructure. This will enable us to keep information, even when others shut down their services. It is possible for every interested person to follow the track from beginning to the end. To say it more drastically (quoted from I think Roy Fielding): "what didn't happen on list, didn't happen". In other terms: we need to keep all our discussing on the mailing lists. Some people may not want to create an account at Rizzoma. Some others may want to follow Wave, without really using it. It sounds paradox, but there are a few people concerned on the foundation itself. They are required to read some information easily, for exmaple when it comes to trademarking problems. We need to give that information without hassle and without requiring them to learn a new tool. There are a tons of reasons to keep the discussions on ASF infra and mailing lists in general. I do not want to advocate or defend the old mailinglists. I am just saying, ml's have been utilized long before I joined the ASF and despite some efforts, they have turned out to be stable and loved. There were even ideas to accept HTML emails blocked. Unlike you want to start a huge and most likely unsuccessful discussion with infra/board/other parties, I suggest we utilize mailing lists for all discussion on Apache Wave. Of course, nobody will "forbid" you to utilize other tools, but please remember: if it doesn't happen on list, it didn't happen. Besides discussion, all votes and decisions need to be public accessible on ASF mailing lists. Sorry for sounding so oldschool; but it's really required. Cheers Christian > A <http://alfredo.abambres.com>lfredo > > *"Moving, always moving, and living inside movement". Rainer Maria Rilke* -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de
