I think then, you should take a look at
the org.waveprotocol.box.server.waveserver.WaveBus interface.



On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Willie Slepecki <scpha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If im reading the documents right, the federation system is the transport
> system between two wave servers.  in laymans terms, its waves version of
> SMTP, basically where google tried replacing email servers.  that part i
> have no interest in (at this time), maybe in the future i will want the
> ability to move a wavelet between my cloud and a clients local cloud but
> thats so far down the road, its not worth looking at right now.
>
> no, what im talking about is the push pull event bus between the UI and the
> server.  The event bus that allows save on key stroke, reaplay (when
> rebuilt) and concurrent editing of documents, concurrent group
> collaboration between people in concurrent editing of documents, etc.  Is
> the heart of that system build outside of GWT and GWT simply accesses it or
> does that part of the system live entirely in GWT.  Its a distinction that
> makes a big difference in what im doing and im still trying to figure out
> which way is up on this thing.
>
> thanks
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you refer to the Wave Federation Protocol, then yes it is implemented
> as
> > part of the server. However, federation wasn't tested for a while...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Willie Slepecki <scpha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, i see what you are doing now.  Well that fits into what i wanted to
> > do
> > > very well.  I don't want my system to be built around wave, i want wave
> > to
> > > be a component of a much larger system.  In order to do that I will
> pull
> > > this apart into more fine grained modules and be able to use those
> > modules
> > > at will within the rest of the system.
> > >
> > > What about the event bus that was so touted when this was released.  is
> > > that part of the protocol that was released or is that built into the
> GWT
> > > interface that your team built?
> > >
> > > Lastly, is the protocol itself functional?  meaning i intend to fork
> this
> > > and redevelop a large chunk of it in scala to make other parts of my
> life
> > > easier.  If i do that at this point in time am i going to find some
> major
> > > release in 8 months that brings a major system back online that by that
> > > point would be completely incompatible with my code base?
> > >
> > > thanks for your help
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > Google did not open the source of original Google Wave, but instead
> it
> > > > created a stand alone open source implementation, with some core
> parts
> >  -
> > > > like the OT implementation - being ported as is. But the client was
> > > rebuilt
> > > > from the scratch.
> > > > The current implementation saves all the deltas, so it is possible to
> > > > implement the feature to replay the wave state to some earlier
> > condition,
> > > > however it is not implemented yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Willie Slepecki <scpha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > is the history replay in the old code repo and just hasn't been
> > ported
> > > > yet
> > > > > or did google not release it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been looking at the code for several hours now.  its in
> pretty
> > > > rough
> > > > > shape but good enough to run i guess. I had to fix several issues
> in
> > > the
> > > > > code to get it to compile but it appears to be compiling correctly
> > now.
> > > >  im
> > > > > not very interested in trying to get it to run yet, i just want to
> > see
> > > > how
> > > > > its packaged.
> > > > >
> > > > > but im starting to feel my way around it.  i finally found the gwt
> > > > > interface and have been pulling that apart.  im mainly trying to
> > > > determine
> > > > > if they implemented the event bus for the save on change as a
> client
> > > > system
> > > > > or a server system.  right now it looks like both.  but i will
> still
> > > play
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > You can find the source code at
> > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/wave/source-code.html
> > > > > > The current implementation supports concurrent edition of the
> > > document
> > > > by
> > > > > > several users, but there's no implementation for history replay.
> > > > > > You can take a look at demo server: waveinabox.net
> > > > > > Regarding your needs - if you only need to support real time
> > > concurrent
> > > > > > editing, then you might also take a look at ShareJS
> > > > > > <http://sharejs.org/>project
> > > > > > or Google Realtime API <
> > > https://developers.google.com/drive/realtime/>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Willie Slepecki <
> > scpha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am looking into building a sort of collaborative document
> > > > management
> > > > > > > application.  I remembered wave from the google beta days and I
> > > > > remember
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > having two features that just astonished me, two features that
> > > could
> > > > > > > complete my design for this new CMS system im designing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the first feature was its concurrent editing of a document.  I
> > > > remember
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > presenter creating a new wave, indicating that it was a
> document,
> > > > not a
> > > > > > > message, sharing it with other users, and then like 6 people
> > > started
> > > > > > > editing the document in different languages at different
> > locations,
> > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > same time.  I remember the presenter talking about the control
> > bus
> > > > that
> > > > > > > made that possible and how it was that single feature that took
> > the
> > > > > > longest
> > > > > > > to get right
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The second feature was the history replay.  he was able to pull
> > up
> > > a
> > > > > > > document and click some kind of history button and a time bar
> > > similar
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > windows media players showed up, he was then able to slide the
> > bar
> > > > all
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > way to the left to an empty document and replay each and every
> > > change
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > happened to that document one at a time until all modifications
> > > > > > culminated
> > > > > > > into the present state of the document.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My memory is fuzzy so i may have gotten the fine details wrong,
> > but
> > > > the
> > > > > > > essence of what those features were are here.  My question is
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > apache
> > > > > > > version of this thing, what are the status of those two
> features,
> > > > what
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > the plans for them, and where would i find them in the old
> google
> > > > code
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > they havn't been migrated over yet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks guys
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > You want it fast, cheap, or right.  Pick two!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > You want it fast, cheap, or right.  Pick two!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > You want it fast, cheap, or right.  Pick two!!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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