Hi, I've been a lurker on this list ever since Wave came to Apache. I've been following it since the sandbox days and have been interested the whole way. Once it went open source I found I couldn't really contribute as java isn't really my forte. This looks like a perfect opportunity though and i'll glad jump in and help out by taking up release manager. I've got not a clue what it involves but i'm a pretty quick learner.
Thanks Angus Turner h...@theangus.org On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > So, are we discussing? We *need* to start discussing this, as we cannot > stay still in the incubator forever. > > Any thoughts? > > Note, you don't need to be a committer to be a release manager. Maybe > this is your chance to get more involved. > > Upayavira > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 01:28 PM, Upayavira wrote: > > Thanks. Now that we've said to the board that we're discussing what it > > takes to make a release, perhaps we'd better do it :-) > > > > Is anyone prepared to take on the job of release manager? > > > > Note, code quality is of no consequence in relation to releasing in the > > incubator. What's needed is to show that licensing/etc is all handled > > correctly. If folks don't want to make a release public, it can be > > produced, vetted by the incubator PMC, and then dropped rather than > > published. Having said that, I consider it to be worth while to release > > an alpha version of the code even if it isn't complete, as it may help > > draw in additional developers to help fill in the missing features. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Upayavira > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 08:21 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > I updated the Wiki for Sep 2012 report. Please feel free to add/edit. > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Max pane <your...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Even i would like to involve in Administration,Under michael, > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > IIRC, the June report focused more on development issues than on > > > > > community/graduation issues, and it is the latter that the > incubator PMC > > > > > and board are interested in, > > > > > > > > > > Regarding releases, we can release now. Call it alpha-0.0.1. The > point > > > > > of releasing is twofold: to show that all licensing issues have > been > > > > > resolved (reviews undertaken by yourselves and incubator PMC before > > > > > artifacts are released) and to draw in new developers. Folks like. > > > > > Having a concrete baseline to work against. Also, two open source > maxims > > > > > to consider: release early, release often. This encourages us to > get our > > > > > stuff out there early, we'll get better feedback that way. Another > one I > > > > > like is "great ideas and bad code builds community". That is, when > > > > > developers see incomplete code, their response is often to help if > x it. > > > > > Showing folks the current state of wave code, flaws and all, might > > > > > actually have the eft of bringing more people to the project. > > > > > > > > > > We're I to write a report, it would be something like: > > > > > > > > > > "One new committee added. Discussions (somewhat stalled) on > additional > > > > > committers. The next major milestone regarding graduation is to > make a > > > > > release. The current codebase is not considered mature enough for a > > > > > useful release, however, the community is discussing what is > required to > > > > > make one, both to better understand the licensing status of our > > > > > codebase, and as a means to draw in additional developers and thus > speed > > > > > up development." > > > > > > > > > > Upayavira > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > > > > > > Looking at the June report, we can copy-paste most of the > contents for > > > > > > the September report. > > > > > > > > > > > > The items listed as 'most important issues' are still relevant, > as are > > > > > > the 'more developments not yet finished but in progress'. > > > > > > > > > > > > To address 'Ross Gardlers's comments, it is probably worth > noting that > > > > > > I was voted in to the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > The WIAB server hardly seems stable enough yet to produce an > actual > > > > > > release (which seems to be the main thing missing for us to > graduate > > > > > > from my understanding). > > > > > > > > > > > > @Michael: as project lead (according to Jira), it is probably > best to > > > > > > leave liaising with the board (via the reports) to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ali > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 September 2012 21:39, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Wave folks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We're overdue with our three-monthly incubator/board report, > it was > > > > due > > > > > > > last Wednesday (6 Sept). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do we have a volunteer to write one, and soon? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remember, it should be focused on what Wave needs to do to > graduate, > > > > > > > rather than on technical matters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upayavira > > > > > > > > > >
