On 9 Jul 2011, at 20:24, ya knygar wrote:

> excuse me, it's https://apps.mozillalabs.COM/
> anyway - their recent work looks like from a great non-profit organization :)

As indeed is Apache :-)

Certainly there are a lot of real-time services and specifications around at 
the moment that have OT elements, so many that it would seem reasonable to try 
to standardize some aspects to get greater interoperability across projects. I 
think this could be one area of work for the W3C FSW group.

> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 7:21 PM, ya knygar <kny...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Scott Wilson,
>> your
>> https://github.com/scottbw/wave-node
>> work and experience, W3C or WHATWG web apps working group work,
>> and your contribution to XCCC could
>> really Help us all on developing a suitable for most format
>> for web-apps in Gadget's point-of-view,
>> in POW, since PyGoWave we had a number of variants,
>> in and out of GWave's type of gadget's system, depending on
>> many concerns, other XCCC members have the same situation.

:-)

I always felt that Wave Gadget APIs were never really tightly coupled to the 
OpenSocial gadget system in the first place anyway, which is why I implemented 
the Wave Gadgets API for W3C Widgets in Apache Wookie, and then as a standalone 
project to integrate with any website.

(btw... Wookie already had a very similar set of APIs for collaboration 
services in widgets implemented before Wave was announced, so it was the first 
implementations outside Google - I think we beat PyGoWave by a few weeks ;-))

>> 
>> now  - with webrtc.org and apps.mozillalabs.org work we have
>> more to leverage, WIAB have also, it would be great start for
>> a wide federation to have a
>> web apps that could connect and inter-operate in FSW networks,
>> given that one of FSW (even from XCCC-XMPP side) networks
>> is likely to get into FreedomBox, FBX's are likely to use Tahoe-LAFS
>> or other distributed persistence,
>> and are likely to be a viable and open cloud hosting for web apps.

I think there is a lot of potential in FSW; the hard part as always being 
identity and privacy.

S

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