On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 7:40 AM Neale Ranns <ne...@graphiant.com> wrote:

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> i would argue the contrary, not subnetting (i.e. using /32) is not a valid
> approach to subnetting.
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Again: GCP does this.  Calico for K8s (the most used K8s CNI plugin) does
this.  Its  basically the direction Cloud is going in the generic.


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> The BSD approach where you have to independent /32s on each side and a
> routing entry for the other side. Or a connected route /31 or larger. The
> act of configuring an address with a prefix is really a shortcut for
> configuring the address _and_ the connected prefix of course.
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> And it’s an expression that there are other hosts attached to this link so
> you don’t need to add /32 routes for any such hosts. IOW it’s a way of say
> stating that there is a sub-network of hosts attached to this router. And
> my routing protocol can advertise this.
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> If you add only a /32 you make none of those statements, and any routing
> protocol, if it still works over links without a subnet, does not include
> (without rediest static) reachability to those attached hosts. IOW it’s
> broken 😊, or at a minimum not standard IP networking.
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> Of course I may be wrong, I often am, but this was my position when
> writing IP functionality for VPP, so there may be other surprises …
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> Sounds to me like the SAS algorithm needs a bit of work.
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> Now on that topic I heartily agree 😊 my SAS implementation is flawed in
> that it uses the glean adjacency to store the link’s receive address. P2p
> links don’t have a glean adj, hence SAS is broken on p2p links. It was an
> oversight on my part, I know I need to fix it.
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> My goal with the SAS implementation done that way was to be able to do
> basic SAS without needing the interface addresses programmed via ‘set int
> ip adrr …’, but rather completely through the RIB (i.e. ip route add …).
> This is more like what one might expect at the bottom of a router stack. To
> say that goal is imcomplete, is an understatement :(
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> The p2p fix, using the directly added IP link addresses is easy, it’s here:
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>   https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/32801
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> (I'd like to use it for ICMP error sending too, where it also should
> handle the case of picking a source address from another interface than the
> outgoing interface).
>

And NBMA interfaces?

Ed


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> SAS++ 😊
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> /neale
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> Cheers,
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> Ole
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> > From: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io> on behalf of Artem
> Glazychev via lists.fd.io <artem.glazychev=xored....@lists.fd.io>
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> > Date: Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 08:37
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> > To: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>
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> > Subject: [vpp-dev] memif: failed: no source address for egress interface
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> > Hello,
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> > Found a problem with some types of interfaces.
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> > For example, memif. When I'm creating memif interfaces and run ping I
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> > DBGvpp# ping 10.10.2.1
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> > Failed: no source address for egress interface
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> > But it is worth mentioning that I am setting /32 mask for IP address
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> > Managed to fix IP mode with these patches:
> https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/32801, https://gerrit.fd.io/r/c/vpp/+/33303
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> > But Ethernet mode still doesn't work.
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> > There was already a similar topic:
> https://lists.fd.io/g/vpp-dev/topic/84038840
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> > Created a jira issue with details: https://jira.fd.io/browse/VPP-1992
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> > Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Thank you.
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