IOS Classic, IOS XR, and NXOS behave slightly differently under the covers. To 
avoid disclosing trade secrets, I can’t go into the minutiae.

VPP uses buffers which hit glean adjacencies – e.g. an ip4 icmp echo request – 
to manufacture the outbound neighbor discovery packet (e.g. ip4 arp request).

D.

From: Burt Silverman <bur...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:36 PM
To: Dave Barach (dbarach) <dbar...@cisco.com>
Cc: ru...@microsoft.com; vpp-dev <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>
Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] Question about ip4(6)-glean node behavior and packet 
drops

I read that a traditional Cisco CEF router behaves as follows:

"When the ping process tries to send the first packet and does not see an ARP 
entry, it initiates an ARP request. It continues to try to send the packet, and 
then drops the packet after a defined wait period. When an ARP response is 
received and the ARP entry is completed using a background process, the ping 
success rate is 100 percent."

Is that the same exact thing that happens with VPP? It is difficult for me to 
be certain. For example, it seems that if (in the traditional CEF router) the 
predefined wait period was set long enough (longer than the ARP processing 
time) then all the ping packets would be forwarded. That's not what they show 
in the text, though, at 
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/express-forwarding-cef/17812-cef-incomp.html#t4

Burt

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 5:53 PM Dave Barach via Lists.Fd.Io<http://Lists.Fd.Io> 
<dbarach=cisco....@lists.fd.io<mailto:cisco....@lists.fd.io>> wrote:
This is deliberate, traditional router behavior.

Alternatives involving queueing packets for reinjection after glean resolution 
events give rise to resource exhaustion attacks. Mitigating that kind of attack 
burns clock cycles, which in turn gives rise to a different kind of attack.

HTH... Dave

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<vpp-dev@lists.fd.io<mailto:vpp-dev@lists.fd.io>> On Behalf Of Rui Cai via 
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Subject: [SUSPICIOUS] [vpp-dev] Question about ip4(6)-glean node behavior and 
packet drops

Hello VPP experts:

I have question about the behavior of ip4(6)-glean nodes. In particular, I’m 
noticing the node is dropping the original packet that triggered glean process. 
The VPP I’m running is 18.07 with DPDK 18.02.

I’m using VPP as a simple forwarding application where final destination’s MAC 
address is not known to VPP at the beginning. I’m sending IPv4 packet using 
scapy and for the 1st packet VPP receives, I see VPP redirects this packet to 
ip4-glean node where it will send an ARP request to learn forwarding 
destination’s MAC address. However, it appears the ip4-glean node will also 
drop my original packet that triggered this process. Is this an expected 
behavior?

If I keep deleting the arp entry of my final destination IP in VPP repeatedly 
(not that a normal application would keep doing this, but just for experiment), 
I see no packets reaching my final destination.

In general, is there some notion of “pending” packets in VPP? Like taking a 
packet out of current input vector and process such packet later, without 
blocking next input vectors getting generated?

Thanks a lot,
-Ray
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