both opaque and opaque2 are shared resource. There is no guarantee that node in 
the middle will not overwrite it.

Is your situation really a case where node A needs to send some information to 
node C and there is 
unknown B or many Bs in the middle?


> On 23 Nov 2016, at 15:15, gannega <gabriel.ga...@qosmos.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> So I can use anything I want within the opaque buffer as long as I don't
> presume what happens next.
> 
> And ... I'm actually doing things I should not in the flowtable (which
> wasn't obvious to me until you explained it that way) ... so I'll go fix
> that.
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> On 11/23/16 14:55, Keith Burns wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:23 AM gannega <gabriel.ga...@qosmos.com 
>> <mailto:gabriel.ga...@qosmos.com>
>> <mailto:gabriel.ga...@qosmos.com <mailto:gabriel.ga...@qosmos.com>>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Hi Keith,
>> 
>>    This is a kind reminder.
>> 
>> 
>> Apologies for tardiness...
>> 
>> 
>>    Also, I stumbled upon VPP-320, and especially
>>    https://gerrit.fd.io/r/#/c/1676/ which adds a 6 Bytes of
>>    plugin_metadata
>>    in the opaque1 union, which has been reopened for nsh-proxy.
>> 
>> 
>> I guess the real issue here is that we should only presume the
>> existence of things that we know to exist :-P (Oooooohhhhhm, tree
>> falling in the woods, sound of one hand clapping).
>> 
>> Simply put, lets assume nodes A -> B -> C -> D (in that order).
>> 
>> Ideally opaque metadata from node A -> "something else" should only
>> tell "something else" about some kind of state from node A.
>> 
>> ie node A writes into opaque "the state of A is red" with the
>> intention that this means something to a later node (ie node C drops
>> packets when state is "red")
>> 
>> What it should avoid doing is:
>> 
>> node A writes into opaque "node C should do this".
>> 
>> In the case where node C is a plugin, which are by definition
>> "optional", this should be verboten.
>> 
>> At some point we may want to add/subtract nodes from the graph post
>> run-time init. If we have a scheme that assumes the existence of some
>> later node "bad things" (tm) will happen, IMHO.
>> 
>> So node A exists, (Cogito, ergo sum... or maybe "Puto esse ego"  - I
>> think I exist?) therefore it's ok for it to say things about it's
>> state or the things preceding it.
>> 
>> 
>>    I feel this might be a good way to go which would ensure no collision
>>    between the uses of the flowtable and the rest of vpp (if such was
>>    indeed your fear).
>> 
>> 
>> Collisions can be avoided with interface feature awareness, no ?
>> 
>> 
> 
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