This paper sounds familiar, as if I had heard the same things a couple of
years ago.  But I've searched through Vort archives and nothing rings the
bell.

Closest thing I came across was where I had posted that the Heisenberg
Uncertainty Principle  (up) had observations in science experiments which
had contradicted it...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2756365/replies?c=266

But I can't find those contradictions against HUP.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:15 AM, H Veeder <[email protected]> wrote:

> ​​
> Can the wave function of an electron be divided and trapped?
> <https://news.brown.edu/articles/2014/10/electron>
>
> https://news.brown.edu/articles/2014/10/electron
>
> October 28, 2014   Contact: Kevin Stacey   401-863-3766
> Electrons are elementary particles — indivisible, unbreakable. But new
> research suggests the electron's quantum state — the electron wave function
> — can be separated into many parts. That has some strange implications for
> the theory of quantum mechanics.
>
> PROVIDENCE, R.I. [Brown University] — New research by physicists from
> Brown University puts the profound strangeness of quantum mechanics in a
> nutshell — or, more accurately, in a helium bubble.
>
> Experiments led by Humphrey Maris, professor of physics at Brown, suggest
> that the quantum state of an electron — the electron’s wave function — can
> be shattered into pieces and those pieces can be trapped in tiny bubbles of
> liquid helium. To be clear, the researchers are not saying that the
> electron can be broken apart. Electrons are elementary particles,
> indivisible and unbreakable. But what the researchers are saying is in some
> ways more bizarre.
>
> In quantum mechanics, particles do not have a distinct position in space.
> Instead, they exist as a wave function, a probability distribution that
> includes all the possible locations where a particle might be found. Maris
> and his colleagues are suggesting that parts of that distribution can be
> separated and cordoned off from each other.
>
> “We are trapping the chance of finding the electron, not pieces of the
> electron,” Maris said. “It’s a little like a lottery. When lottery tickets
> are sold, everyone who buys a ticket gets a piece of paper. So all these
> people are holding a chance and you can consider that the chances are
> spread all over the place. But there is only one prize — one electron — and
> where that prize will go is determined later.”
>
> If Maris’s interpretation of his experimental findings is correct, it
> raises profound questions about the measurement process in quantum
> mechanics. In the traditional formulation of quantum mechanics, when a
> particle is measured — meaning it is found to be in one particular location
> — the wave function is said to collapse.
>
> “The experiments we have performed indicate that the mere interaction of
> an electron with some larger physical system, such as a bath of liquid
> helium, does not constitute a measurement,” Maris said. “The question then
> is: What does?”
>
> And the fact that the wave function can be split into two or more bubbles
> is strange as well. If a detector finds the electron in one bubble, what
> happens to the other bubble?
>
> "It really raises all kinds of interesting questions," Maris said.
>
> The new research is published in the Journal of Low Temperature Physics
> <http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10909-014-1224-3>
> ​ <http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10909-014-1224-3>.​
> ​
>
>
> Electron bubbles
>
> Scientists have wondered for years about the strange behavior of electrons
> in liquid helium cooled to near absolute zero. When an electron enters the
> liquid, it repels surrounding helium atoms, forming a bubble in the liquid
> about 3.6 nanometers across. The size of the bubble is determined by the
> pressure of the electron pushing against the surface tension of the helium.
> The strangeness, however, arises in experiments dating back to the 1960s
> looking at how the bubbles move.
>
> In the experiments, a pulse of electrons enters the top of a helium-filled
> tube, and a detector registers the electric charge delivered when electron
> bubbles reach the bottom of the tube. Because the bubbles have a
> well-defined size, they should all experience the same amount of drag as
> they move, and should therefore arrive at the detector at the same time.
> But that’s not what happens. Experiments have detected unidentified objects
> that reach the detector before the normal electron bubbles. Over the years,
> scientists have cataloged 14 distinct objects of different sizes, all of
> which seem to move faster than an electron bubble would be expected to move.
>
> “They’ve been a mystery ever since they were first detected,” Maris said.
> “Nobody has a good explanation.”
>
> Several possibilities have been proposed. The unknown objects could be
> impurities in the helium—charged particles knocked free from the walls of
> the container. Another possibility is that the objects could be helium ions
> — helium atoms that have picked up one or more extra electrons, which
> produce a negative charge at the detector.
>
> But Maris and his colleagues, including Nobel laureate and Brown physicist
> Leon Cooper, believe a new set of experiments puts those explanations to
> rest.
>
>
> New experiments
>
> The researchers performed a series of electron bubble mobility experiments
> with much greater sensitivity than previous efforts. They were able to
> detect all 14 of the objects from previous work, plus four additional
> objects that appeared frequently over the course of the experiments. But in
> addition to those 18 objects that showed up frequently, the study revealed
> countless additional objects that appeared more rarely.
>
> In effect, Maris says, it appears there aren’t just 18 objects, but an
> effectively infinite number of them, with a “continuous distribution of
> sizes” up to the size of the normal electron bubble.
>
> “That puts a dagger in the idea that these are impurities or helium ions,”
> Maris said. “It would be hard to imagine that there would be that many
> impurities, or that many previously unknown helium ions.”
>
> The only way the researchers can think of to explain the results is
> through “fission” of the wave function. In certain situations, the
> researchers surmise, electron wave functions break apart upon entering the
> liquid, and pieces of the wave function are caught in separate bubbles.
> Because the bubbles contain less than the full wave function, they’re
> smaller than normal electron bubbles and therefore move faster.
>
> In their new paper, Maris and his team lay out a mechanism by which
> fission could happen that is supported by quantum theory and is in good
> agreement with the experimental results. The mechanism involves a concept
> in quantum mechanics known as reflection above the barrier.
>
> In the case of electrons and helium, it works like this: When an electron
> hits the surface of the liquid helium, there’s some chance that it will
> cross into the liquid, and some chance that it will bounce off and carom
> away. In quantum mechanics, those possibilities are expressed as part of
> the wave function crossing the barrier, and part of it being reflected.
> Perhaps the small electron bubbles are formed by the portion of the wave
> function that goes through the surface. The size of the bubble depends on
> how much wave function goes through, which would explain the continuous
> distribution of small electron bubble sizes detected in the experiments.
>
> The idea that part of the wave function is reflected at a barrier is
> standard quantum mechanics, Cooper said. “I don’t think anyone would argue
> with that,” he said. “The non-standard part is that the piece of the wave
> function that goes through can have a physical effect by influencing the
> size of the bubble. That is what is radically new here.”
>
> Further, the researchers propose what happens after the wave function
> enters the liquid. It’s a bit like putting a droplet of oil in a puddle of
> water. “Sometime your drop of oil forms one bubble,” Maris said, “Sometimes
> it forms two, sometimes 100.”
>
> There are elements within quantum theory that suggest a tendency for the
> wave function to break up into specific sizes. By Maris’s calculations, the
> specific sizes one might expect to see correspond roughly to the 18
> frequently occurring electron bubble sizes.
>
> “We think this offers the best explanation for what we see in the
> experiments,” Maris said. We’ve got this body of data that goes back 40
> years. The experiments are not wrong; they’ve been done by multiple people.
> We have a tradition called Occam’s razor, where we try to come up with the
> simplest explanation. This, so far as we can tell, is it.”
>
> But it does raise some interesting questions that sit on the border of
> science and philosophy. For example, it’s necessary to assume that the
> helium does not make a measurement of the actual position of the electron.
> If it did, any bubble found not to contain the electron would, in theory,
> simply disappear. And that, Maris says, points to one of the deepest
> mysteries of quantum theory.
>
> “No one is sure what actually constitutes a measurement. Perhaps
> physicists can agree that someone with a Ph.D. wearing a white coat sitting
> in the lab of a famous university can make measurements. But what about
> somebody who really isn’t sure what they are doing? Is consciousness
> required? We don’t really know.”
>
> Authors on the paper in addition to Maris were former Brown postdoctoral
> researcher Wanchun Wei, graduate student Zhuolin Xie, and George Seidel,
> professor emeritus of physics.
>
>

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