Russ Gries has demonstrated hydrogen plasma expansion driven by electric
discharge as follows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWiWftGknI#t=1676

Papp has the water plasma expansion driven by electric discharge covered in
this first patent award.

Therefore, Mills has no original IP claim regarding plasma expansion of
material driven through electric discharge..



On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 1:38 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If Mills discloses he deserves credit for that.
>
> By "discloses" I mean what the patent office means:  Provides sufficient
> information in the patent disclosure for those skilled in the art to
> realize beneficial use independent of the inventor.
>
> By "the art" I clearly do not mean HHO/energy from water/etc.  I mean
> whatever conventional technologies are combined to realize beneficial use
> of the invention.
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Those who have been around the alternative energy scene for long enough
>> are
>> certainly aware of the niche which is now called simply "HHO". The name is
>> loaded - it implies that there is a fundamental difference in two forms of
>> split water. HHO was once called "hydroxy" or Browns gas and is not fully
>> split into H2 and O2. It is claimed to retain special properties.
>>
>> The broader field derived from the devices and claims of Garrett, Rhodes,
>> Yull Brown, Puharich, the Graneau's, Stanley Meyer, Santilli, Boyce,
>> Daniel
>> Dingle, Rustum Roy/Kanzius and many others who published information (some
>> scientific, some anecdotal) on various aspects of water energy anomalies,
>> often in the presence of electrical fields, either via electrolysis, RF,
>> direct arc or cavitation. Wiki has an article on the scam aspects, which
>> sadly excludes the actual science. No surprise that Wiki is taking sides
>> in
>> another controversial subject.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car
>>
>> Mills new paper should be read in that context. Basically it is an HHO
>> paper, which is cleverly disguised as something else in order to shoehorn
>> it
>> into a theory (and especially into IP) which does may or may not apply,
>> due
>> to the vast amount of prior art.
>>
>> http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/papers/ContHOH.pdf
>>
>> Normally in science, the author strives to gives credit to prior art, but
>> apparently Mills is above that. OTOH his numerous supporters and shills
>> will
>> proudly trumpet, probably in response to this post, that Mills has finally
>> explained what the others before him have seen glimpses of - and he owes
>> no
>> duty to actually lower his status to their level, by way of
>> acknowledgement.
>> Maybe so.
>>
>> "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" George
>> Santayana
>>
>>
>>
>

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