On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
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From: Edmund Storms
* This description is popular with physicists, but conflicts with what
is experienced in chemistry.
... that's a semantic distinction which bears the legacy of two
decades of
professional jealousy in LENR about where (which discipline) the field
belongs.
Jones, this is absolutely and completely untrue. There is no
professional jealousy, only a different way of seeing reality. LENR
belongs in both chemistry and physics. Nevertheless, physics keep
ignoring what is known and required to be considered in the chemical
system in which LENR occurs. Physicists seem determined to apply
imagination to LENR without even trying to relate anything to reality.
In contrast, chemistry requires a good understanding of reality. That
is why the effect was discovered by a chemist. A physicist would not
have tried the experiment because it conflicted with his imagination,
i.e. theory.
This field has been called "ballotechnics." No, this is not
"chemistry" per
se, but it is not nuclear physics either - at least in the early
stages.
Normal chemistry involves valence electrons; and those weak
reactions are of
little interest to LENR since they seldom promote energy levels of
more than
a few eV. As we are interested in hundreds of eV and up, normal
chemistry is
little help but inner-shell supra-chemistry could be relevant.
I agree, normal chemistry is no help understanding the nuclear
process, but a great deal of normal chemistry occurs before this event
and this has a huge effect on power production.
Unfortunately the name - ballotechnic - carries a lot of baggage,
some of
which goes back to 9/11 and Dr Steven Jones' claim of having found
"nanothermite" in the dust. But that (and the "red mercury" scam) is
not a
good reason to avoid the supra-chemistry field, other than that
reliable
information is missing. The field must be heavily censored - given the
budgets involved contrasted with the lack of published papers.
* Such energetic electrons, if they were present and could influence a
nuclear reaction, they would also affect chemical reactions. No such
effect
has been observed.
Let's rephrase that. No supra-chemistry effects have been observed
by you
nor by most electrochemists since they require specialized laboratory
equipment ...
No, this has nothing to do with me or electrochemists. Chemical
effects and behavior have been studied for centuries and the
information is well taught in university. These proposed high energy
effects are simply not observed.
but at Sandia, they have reportedly been spending hundreds of
millions on ballotechnics, and almost none of that R&D gets
published - due
to fears of terrorism.
Can you say more? I have no idea how ballotechnics relates to LENR.
Ed Storms
This Hungarian information will hopefully fill in the gaps, but is
there a
risk of that? or is this another case of WMD-type paranoia, which
turns out
to be nonexistent?
Jones
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