It gave them temporary additional Brane power, which decayed over time into sub atomic particles like the Soviet Union
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Roger Bird <[email protected]> wrote: > Does this imply that the Tunguska event caused the idiocy of the Soviet > Union, or set the stage for it. > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:07 AM, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Our atmosphere is basically Nitrogen(N2), Oxygen(O2) and Water >> Vapor(H2O). I believe the nuclei(vacuum energy) of that Tunguska Brane >> orbited through the Earth and jet streams for months afterward and ionized >> all of the molecules I mentioned previously, Creating NH3 and NH4NO3, O3, >> NOx and such. It is the great ionizer and condenser of all matter and is >> at the heart of LENR. >> >> I have also been studying the dark ages and it appears something similar >> happened to the atmosphere back then in addition to the rampant disease >> that spread, lots of fireballs, foul air, floods, etc killing tens of >> millions across Europe and Asia. I talked with the Professor/Author of one >> of the books that imply a comet or other celestial object(s) was a trigger, >> not to say that the opportunistic plague did not contribute. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Baillie >> Upon examining the tree-ring record, Baillie noticed indications of >> severe environmental downturns around 2354 BC, 1628 BC, 1159 BC, 208 BC, >> and AD 540. The evidence suggests that these environmental downturns were >> wide-ranging catastrophic events; the AD 540 event in particular is >> attested in tree-ring chronologies from >> Siberia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia> >> through Europe <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe> and >> North<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America> >> and South America <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America>. This >> event coincides with the second largest ammonium signal in the Greenland >> ice in the last two millennia, the largest being in AD 1014, and both these >> epochs were accompanied by cometary apparitions. Baillie explains the >> general absence of mainstream historical references to this event by the >> fact it was described in terms of biblical metaphors since at that time >> "Christian beliefs included the dogma that nothing that happens in the >> heavens could have any conceivable effect on the >> Earth."[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Baillie#cite_note-1> >> >> 1811 also had a 7 year climate downturn after the visit by the Great >> Comet of 1811 (and the New Madrid Earthquakes in Dec 1811) >> >> I don't think our rock and snowball model of the universe works very >> well. Something is energetic enough to ionize "inert" molecules. I think >> it is the vacuum energy within these energetic "particles" >> >> I believe those billions of tons of CME's that miss us, which I think are >> mostly collapsed matter, end up here collecting dust >> http://www.universetoday.com/32515/kuiper-belt/ >> >> And then gradually hit us in the head every once in awhile as they are >> pulled in to the inner solar system. These are mostly electromagnetic and >> gravitational branes spit out from the Sun in my book, which is just a 5 >> dimensional brane herself. >> >> I am mostly interested since we will be passing through comet ISON's tail >> in Jan 2014. Many comet tails do cause meteor showers annually and >> something "unusual" is expected from ISON. >> http://www.space.com/20859-comet-ison-new-meteor-shower.html >> >> Stewart >> darkmattersalot. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the citation, Stewart. I was not aware that the Tunguska >>> event and Younger Dryas had already been connected via ammonia >>> concentration found in ice cores. And it is most intriguing that a special >>> type of higher energy event could be responsible for both. They speculate: >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> “An analog of the Haber process with hydrogen contributed by cometary or >>> surface water, atmospheric nitrogen, high pressures, and possibly catalytic >>> iron from a comet could in principle produce ammonia…”**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> But the kind of energy necessary to produce the amount of nitrates seen >>> – is apparently absent. Since there has been no mention of significant >>> radioactivity – and given there is like to be massive “extra” gain above >>> the physics of normal atmospheric impact dynamics, then LENR should not be >>> ruled out as a contributing source of energy for such events.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I wonder if the recent Russian meteor at Chelyabinsk produced >>> significant ammonia or other nitrates and if it too contained Lonsdaleite >>> and nickel? Many hits turn up on google, as expected - but nothing >>> conclusive that I have seen. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> A cross-connection between three factors: nitrates in the atmosphere, >>> Lonsdaleite carbon and nickel in the bolide, and the lack of large debris >>> evidence (indicative of an atmospheric explosion) would be interesting for >>> further speculation based on the possibility of how perhaps 10 times more >>> energy than can otherwise be accounted for. (notice how many times the >>> estimated of the size of the Chelyabinsk meteor was raised based solely on >>> the energy, and not the visual evidence).**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> In short, if Chelyabinsk was really that large, there should have been >>> prior notice in the ongoing surveys, and if it was comparatively small, as >>> seems to be the case, then the extra energy could have come from a >>> non-nuclear source involving hydrogen and nano-porosity.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* ChemE Stewart **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> At the time of Tunguska, something also increased the levels of Ammonia >>> and Ammonium Nitrate in the atmosphere to significant levels as shown in >>> ice cores. **** >>> >>> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0907/0907.1067.pdf**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> My bet is that the Tunguska "meteorite" had a LENR/vacuum energy core >>> and was actually a BRANE per M Theory, just like a comet. They ionize the >>> air in their surroundings. If rocks can generate 10-15 megatons (up to >>> 1000 times Hiroshima) in the atmosphere without hitting anything why do we >>> need nuclear weapons?**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Stewart**** >>> >>> darkmattersalot.com**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Story with many implications, real or imaginary: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.nature.com/news/rock-samples-suggest-meteor-caused-tunguska-blast >>> -1.13163?WT.ec_id=NEWS-20130611<http://www.nature.com/news/rock-samples-suggest-meteor-caused-tunguska-blast%0d%0a-1.13163?WT.ec_id=NEWS-20130611> >>> >>> "Researchers from Ukraine say that they have found a smoking gun for the >>> Tunguska event," and it is a small fragment from an iron-nickel-carbon >>> meteor that could have caused the half-megaton blast, leaving few traces. >>> The study is published in Planetary and Space Science. >>> >>> Hold on ... there is more... including the possibility of a Rossi/ LENR >>> connection! <g> >>> >>> Aside from the enormity of the blast and the lack large rock debris, >>> there >>> is an overlooked factoid - the samples which have been found contain an >>> exotic form of carbon called Lonsdaleite - which is somewhere between >>> graphite and diamond ... and can be nanoporous. There has been prior >>> speculation on carbon - in some exotic form or another, as being part of >>> the >>> Rossi secret catalyst... otherwise this Tunguska story is not exactly on >>> topic. >>> >>> This particular form of carbon was found at another special impact site - >>> which also relates to a pivotal period at the end of the last ice age, >>> around 11-13 thousand years ago which is steeped in mythology (the >>> demise of >>> the Clovis culture, the rise of the Gobekli Tepe culture, Atlantis, the >>> flood of Noah, etc). Lonsdaleite has been found as nano-crystals >>> embedded in >>> iron-nickel and dated to this exact time period at Lake Cutizeo near >>> Guanajuato, Mexico, supportive of the controversial Younger Dryas impact >>> hypothesis. That was presumed to be a massive explosion, since melt-glass >>> from it was found as far away as Syria. >>> >>> Lonsdaleite is an allotrope of carbon with a hexagonal lattice. The >>> crystal >>> lattice, is harder and stronger than diamond and usually embedded in an >>> iron-nickel matrix, and there is the important nano-geometry (it is >>> called >>> nano-diamond), and the fact that many meteors contain ice, methane and >>> hydrogen - all of which, taken together with a larger than expected >>> explosion ... >>> >>> hmmm... maybe it is a bit surprising that the Pentagon hasn't taken an >>> active interest in the HotCat... or maybe they have. >>> >>> Jones >>> >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >> >> >
