There are a lot of opinions that can dramatically lower one's evolutionary
fitness if expressed.  For example, when Moses came down with his tablets
and was, shall we say, depressed by the reception -- he asked for the
"opinion" of those around him and those who agreed with him were then
ordered to kill everyone else.

Civilization HO!!!


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:00 PM, William Beaty <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 May 2013, Joshua Cude wrote:
>
>> I'm not interested in an inaccessible (non-archived) list like vortex-b,
>> so
>> I'll just slink away. I may post a few responses to Rothwell's latest
>> replies over on wavewatching.net/fringe if they tolerate it.
>>
>
> Or, just stick with the greater world of weird-but-nonCF subjects, where
> you see that the evidence is not yet decisive, and there's low chance of
> triggering a Believer vs. Debunker debate.  This isn't a CF-only forum,
> though it tends to function as one!  :)
>
> I push the crackpot-friendly aspect as a long-time experiment in
> "Provisional Acceptance" of crazy hypotheses.  Currently in science, at
> least where weird topics are concerned, we instead operate with a
> philosophy of Provisional Disbelief, where we allow the evidence convince
> us to change our minds.  But since disbelief is itself a strong bias, what
> happens if we test the opposite technique, and provisionally accept weird
> topics in order to study them?    Just try it, and everyone attacks you:
> "You actually BELIEVE in that crap?!!  ANYONE WHO TAKES THAT STUFF
> SERIOUSLY IS A CRACKPOT."  And of course the uncritical Believers want to
> welcome you into the fold.
>
> This above situation strongly suggests that certain topics have never been
> given a chance in the past.  If each time someone tries to give them a
> chance, and is stopped by colleages, then we may actually have no idea
> whether those topics are truely Woo or not, since nobody is allowed to take
> them seriously enough to properly "do the homework" before making an
> informed decision.  If we have to take on the (perceived) crackpot mantle
> in order to do proper homework, then that's exactly what's needed: declare
> oneself to be a True Believer Raving Loonie, then have at it.  (Perhaps use
> a fake name here in order to protect one's professional rep.)
>
>   http://amasci.com/weird/vmore.**html<http://amasci.com/weird/vmore.html>
>   "Even so, I believe that many scientists have a habit of rejecting new
>   ideas because they unknowingly maintain an illusory worldview which is
>   based on concensus of colleagues, rather than upon evidence, and as a
>   result they become irrational. They become very intolerant of all ideas
>   which violate that consensus, and will instantly and thoughtlessly
>   reject the evidence supporting such ideas.   This forum is for
>   scientist-types (including amateurs!) with a low tolerance for anything
>   resembling mob-rule, and a high tolerance for those crazy hypotheses.
>
>
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