Thank you, Spock.

Eric


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://io9.com/5499139/an-interview-with-peter-hagelstein
>
> An Interview With Peter 
> Hagelstein<http://io9.com/5499139/an-interview-with-peter-hagelstein>
>
>
>
> MIT Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein stated in an interview as follows:
>
> So after a lot of years of work on it, about 10 years ago we found a model
> that actually did something like that. It's remarkable! It turns out in the
> physics literature, there's a model called the 'Spin-Boson Model' that's
> basically a fundamental quantum mechanics model, so you have a harmonic
> oscillator and you hook it up to what's called a two level system — that's
> just an idealisation, it's a little bit of physics having to do with two of
> the energy levels in a more complicated system. But it makes the math
> really simple, so the resulting model is one you can analyze to death.
> People have studied that model now for between 40-60 years, depending on
> how you count them. This model predicts the 30 or 50 fold, or the ability
> to break up a two level system quantum into, for example, into nearly 30
> individual quanta.
>
> Axil says:
>
> Let us now address another quantum optics model describing polaritons:
>
> The Jaynes Cummings model.
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaynes%E2%80%93Cummings_model
>
> Starting at the very bottom, the most basic underlying model that teaches
> us how waves/particles can resonate is the Jaynes–Cummings model (JCM). It
> describes the system of a two-level atom interacting with a quantized mode
> of an optical cavity, with or without the presence of light (in the form of
> a bath of electromagnetic radiation that can cause spontaneous emission and
> absorption).
>
>
>
>
> MIT Prof. Peter L. Hagelstein continues in an interview as follows:
>
>
>
>
> What we found is the way that the model does it, it can do it, but it's
> hindered. There's a destructive interference effect that goes on, that
> makes the effect relatively weak. What we found, is that if you added a
> weird kind of loss to the model— a loss that you would expect in the cold
> fusion scenario. The new model, with loss, is much more relevant to the
> physical situation called fusion than otherwise. But this weird kind of
> loss, it breaks the destructive interference, and it makes this energy
> exchange go orders of magnitude faster. And instead of being a relatively
> weak effect, it's now a very strong, it's a dominant effect. This model is
> exactly what you need! It's a microscopic engine to take big quanta and
> chop it up into little tiny quanta. So that's what we've found.
>
> Axil says:
>
> This is Fano interference active in an optical cavity to localize EMF
> radiation to the near field in dark mode by eliminated far field emissions.
>
> In a Ni/H reactor, a general state of Bose Einstein condensation exists do
> to the unique properties of the polariton.
>
>
>
> This takes nanoplasmonic theory to another level of detail in the Jaynes
> Cummings Hubbard model
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaynes%E2%80%93Cummings%E2%80%93Hubbard_model
>
> and the spaser
>
> *arxiv.org/pdf/1210.7086*
>
>
>
>
>
> This property provides thermalization of gamma rays and superfluidic heat
> transfer from the NAE to the walls of the reactor at temperatures of up to
> 2600Cthat cools the NAE.
>
>
>
> Imagination is a great risk in the understanding of LENR. This is natural
> when experimental data cannot be found. However, this
> aforementioned characterization of he behavior of the polariton has been
> experimentally verified in a thousand or more experiments conducted in the
> field of nanoplasmonics. This new science has developed the tools to look
> into the behavior of the nano-lattice and understand what is going on
> inside it.
>
> All that those interested in LENR is to take the time to learn.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>> The very small number of alpha and neutrons can be explained without
>>> assuming CF is the cause.
>>>
>>
>> I guess this is the conclusion I'm trying to better understand -- I
>> understand the part about neutrons.  It is the "very small number alpha"
>> particles that I'm querying.  I think you allude to this below, but I'm not
>> sure if that is the only basis for this conclusion.
>>
>>
>>> Fast particles make secondary radiation that can be easily detected.
>>> Peter made calculations showing the energy limit required to avoid detecton.
>>>
>>
>> I take it that an important assumption here is that (1) the radiation is
>> broadband (sounds sensible) and (2) it extends into a range beyond what is
>> going to be stopped by the glass or metal housing enclosing the system.  Do
>> you expect the peak of the secondary radiation to be significantly above
>> the threshold at which the glass or metal will stop it?
>>
>>
>>> You should read his papers.  Here is a list.
>>>
>>
>> That is a long list.  I'm glad that you highlighted some of them!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>

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