Axil,
Even if the finer details remain to be proven  I am convinced you have 
correctly identified the underlying forces powering the Papp engine as Casimir 
force in opposition to HUP.  Your perspective  obeys  "conservation of 
miracles"  in that it shares a  common denominator with nano powders, skeletal 
cats, and sonoluminescence. I can't describe the exact physics but am convinced 
that Mills, Rossi, Arrat  and other researchers are all utilizing confinement 
to derive either heat or time dilation from geometric confinement of opposing 
forces.
Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Live Video Conference: The Revolutionary 
Plasma Power Technology of Josef Papp


I now believe that the Papp engine gets it power from the vacuum. The Papp 
engine sets up an optimum condition to control and manipulate both attractive 
and repulsive forces at topological plasmoid surfaces based on engineering of 
the Casimir force.

To explain how this is done, a special kind of high powered capacitive spark 
discharge produces a form of plasmoid in the shape of a roiling smoke ring. 
This plasmoid topology provides a sharply delineated zone of intense 
electrostatic attraction which in turn provides a hook that the Casimir force 
latches onto to accelerate the plasmoid through a dielectric.

To set the stage, noble gases are the most dielectric of gases with a high 
threshold for ionization. Also note that the gases: Chlorine and Fluorine which 
promote the excimer laser ionization function of the heavy noble gases are also 
highly dielectric.

Note...This excimer laser ionization process was used by the original Papp 
implementation but it is now being replaced(J. Rohner) by RF excitation of the 
heavy noble gases.

Sorted by 1st Ionization Potential (eV), Name, Sym #

12.130 Xenon       Xe 54
12.967 Chlorine    Cl 17
13.598 Hydrogen  H 1
13.618 Oxygen     O 8
13.999 Krypton     Kr 36
14.534 Nitrogen    N 7
15.759 Argon        Ar 18
17.422 Fluorine     F 9
21.564 Neon         Ne 10
24.587 Helium       He 2

The bow shock of the plasmoid does not respond with an equal and opposite force 
because of a conflict between Newton's classical First Law of Motion with the 
quantum theory based on the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal.

Ultimately, it is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal where the over unity 
energy production comes from.

The Heisenberg Principal states that highly fixed quantum objects must exhibit 
a proportionally high degree of random momentum and amplified energy levels.

The plasmoid provide a sharp boundary between highly ionized and neutral noble 
gases.

The high degree of bow shock electron fixedness of the plasmoids electrons skin 
results in a high degree of random response of those same electrons to all 
forces, including both body and surface forces.

The negatively charged tightly constrained electrons skin on the leading edge 
of the plasmoid bow shock pulls strongly towards the positively charged neutral 
matter dielectric layer by the Casimir Force.

Self-perpetuating and ever amplifing counter rotating positive and negative 
electric currents in the plasmoid are self-maintained by complimentary magnetic 
forces induced by those same electric currents. So in the timeframe of the Papp 
reaction, the plasmoid becomes a permanent electromagnetic structure.

The plasmoid electron skin increases in energy density as the pressure of 
acceleration generates an increasing response in the magnitude of randomized 
electron momentum, instead of the expected simple momentum increase 
proportional to the attractive Casimir force.


The increasingly randomized momentum of the bow shock electrons collectively 
forms a very thin and highly constrained randomized momentum Heisenberg 
Uncertainty Surface (HUS) that forms a randomized momentum Heisenberg 
Uncertainty Volume (HUV) confining the plasmoid.

Randomized forces exerted on the bow shock electrons of the HUS and the HUV 
constrained by the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal cannot respond in kind as 
an equal and opposite force and so conflict directly with Newton's laws of 
motion. But no new science is required, only the realization that Newton's Laws 
are the special case, not the general, as they are with relativity.

Like a horse pulling a cart, the bow shock electrons pulls along heavily 
positively ionized  currents of Xenon and Krypton crystals produced by an 
initial burst of soft X-rays during the plasmoid formation process. These large 
numbers of heavy noble gas crystals can be composed of over 20,000 atoms, each 
in the form of a ball.

The plasmoid is like an ever accelerating heavy ball shot out of a rail gun.

The kinetic energy that the plasmoid has developed through its transit into the 
dielectric boundary gases are imparted to the surface of the piston when the 
ensemble of heavy noble gas crystals impacts the piston surface face. These 
very large heavy noble gas crystals are the primary force carriers of the Papp 
reaction

Cheers:    Axil
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Axil,

In the presentation you cite, McKubre states (slides 17-18) -

"...it is clearly a nuclear process."

Perhaps - if the Papp overunity effect is confirmed several more times.

But, if it turns out to be real, and no nuclear ash is found, an admittedly
unorthodox (and unlikely) possibility is energy extraction from the vacuum.

If the vacuum still possesses some negentropy (dating from the Big Bang),
it might provide a "free lunch" via measurement-induced quantum wave
function collapse (if we stumble upon the correct measurements) -

"Using Information to Extract Energy"
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/11/22/using-information-to-extract-energy/

"Quantum measurement information as a key to energy extraction from local
vacuums"
http://arxiv.org/abs/0803.2272
http://prd.aps.org/abstract/PRD/v78/i4/e045006

"Concentrating Energy by Measurement"
http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.5868
http://link.aip.org/link/APCPCS/v1446/i1/p353

"Subquantum Information and Computation"
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0203049

"Energy concentration in composite quantum systems"
http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.5337
link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevA.81.063821<http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRevA.81.063821>



Possibly also related to the apparent collective behavior of the
ionized atoms in the Papp engine:
"Collective quantum jumps of Rydberg atoms"
http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.6506


-- Lou Pagnucco

Axil wrote on Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:32:07:
> Slide show
>
> http://www.worldsci.org/pdf/events/Springer-TheRevolutionaryPlasmaPowerTechnologyofJosefPapp.pdf
>
> Axil
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM, 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Subject: Live Video Conference: The Revolutionary Plasma Power
>> Technology
>> of Josef Papp
>>
>>
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