Definitely not sure this area has had sufficient scrutiny.

Here is quich overwiew of the the scrutiny that it has been given so far.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_electrodynamics


Cheers:    Axil

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:02 PM, John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Frank, sadly your paper goes over my head.
> If you are willing to explain your statement: Relativistic properties are
> due to the phase angle of the magnetic field.
>
> Just to quickly reiterate my point of view... (before I rant more about it
> anyway)
> Protons and electrons posses a radial electric field (although I
> am uncertain we really appreciate what topology field a single electron
> possesses).
>
> This electric field does not bend as we think of electric and magnetic
> fields doing, rather superimposed electric fields sum to zero from vector
> addition in a charge neutral object.
>
> As electrons move through a wire, it undergoes length contraction,
> actually Lorentz contraction was initially an (A)Ether theory and I am
> personally entierly clear about the objective reality of the aether.
> The electrons electric field (that fills perhaps the entire universe?)
> undergoes length contraction propagating at the speed of light.
>
> Understanding how this creates the forces expected from parallel current
> carrying conductors is not very challenging and is conventionally accepted
> and explained.
> https://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/tdray/phys310/electromag.pdf
> Meanwhile the electric induction from a time varying current is in my
> understanding due to bending of electric field lines due to acceleration
> similar to the effect from moving a hose side to side as water comes out,
> the induction created by such agrees with the expected induction along a
> wire.
>
> The point is that no magnetic field is ever needed to derive the expected
> force, I am not aware of any particle that directly responds to a magnetic
> field, electrons feel a very real electric force at 90 degrees to a
> magnetic field, and magnetic fields are only ever created by electric
> fields, in short it is always electric and the magnetic is just a very
> useful tool to conceptualize a complex relativistic electric field.
>
> When you consider such a squashed field it would create a type of electric
> field, this is termed a motional E field, although that can also be
> established from looking at the magnetic loops around a wire as moving with
> the electron drift.
> Actually this is then getting close to the Homopolar generator, in which a
> current moves through a loop, and movement in a circle parallel to the
> current generates (or alters) the strength of the motional E-field.
>
> What is this generator telling us? It is telling us that if we move so as
> to increase the velocity of the electrons, even though the protons create
> an opposing E field that is enhanced the electrons velocity being somewhat
> greater faces a greater degree of amplification.
> To give examples, if the electrons were drifting at 1 meter a second, and
> you begin moving in the opposite direction to 1 meter a second then you
> have doubled the velocity of the moving electrons, if this were to create
> more than double the EMF from these electrons then there would be a net
> gain as the unpaired protonic field (if you get my drift :) would be at
> 1/meter a second.
>
> If I am to state with reasonable confidence that the electric field
> intensity of a magnetic field is effected by both the drift velocity and
> any velocity along the wire then a Homopolar Generator (without
> ferromagnetic components) should have a greater voltage output everything
> being equal if the electrons in the electromagnet have a high drift
> velocity!
>
> The better question is if this can be expected to translate to more force
> with electromagnets (or simply 2 current carrying wires), but this is more
> complex as we must consider forces on the electrons and protons of each
> wire under multiple different frames (or, is it absolute motion relative to
> the aether).
>
> Also is time varying induction effected? Well if that is a result of the
> bending of electric field lines (which is I believe accepted in theory
> about antennas) then faster moving electrons would lead to a such more
> directional and steeper gradient.
>
> Is there any reason to think that electromagnetism which is created by
> relativistic effects is so largely unaffected by the velocity by which it
> is formed?
>
> I can't do the equations myself, but electrodynamics being explained by SR
> and such transformations being accepted makes me wonder what this model
> says about velocity.
> Does it predict a difference between a high speed flow of 1 coulomb of
> electrons a second past a point, or a low speed flow of 1 Coulomb of
> electrons past a point per second for in for instance the case of a
> homopolar generator?
>
> And if not how can such a generator be understood to work at all given
> this model?
>
> Definitely not sure this area has had sufficient scrutiny.
>
> John
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:47 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>  Here is the invite in case any of you want to write a paper.  Jones it
>> time for you to get published.
>>
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>>  -----Original Message-----
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>>  To: gar <[email protected]>
>>  Sent: Wed, Oct 3, 2012 12:21 pm
>>  Subject: Reminder - SPSISW 2013 - Call for Abstracts
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>>  All,
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>> Reminder that the initial call for abstracts is to end on 1 November.
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