Even though it sounds so out of reach right now you just know that 20 years 
from now some Bill Niles / McGiver type will demonstrate the effect on a 
desktop using some foil wrappers ,a battery charger and some form of hydroxide 
right off the shelf at WallMart. The trick will be in processing the foil but 
once the genie is out of this bottle
Fran
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Not simply a surface effect

This is explosive Jones.  Many of us here in Vortex seems to have reached 
the conclusion that the LENR effects are primarily due to Topology.

I was unaware of this result from Ahern that seems to clearly say otherwise.

Well, I guess I learn something new everyday.  That is why I value this 
forum so much.


Jojo



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jones Beene" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:47 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Not simply a surface effect


> For to record ... and to correct potential disinformation.
>
> Excess heat as seen recently in Celani/Technova etc. is NOT simply a 
> surface
> morphology effect, according to Ahern's EPRI report.
>
> Rather, excess heat depends on both nano-geometry and the proper alloy 
> being
> found together in the same powder.
>
> Unfortunately, EPRI have not yet published this report, but the 
> experiments
> showed clearly that identical nano-geometry, in a variety of metal 
> powders,
> have massively different thermal effects, dependent on the alloy.
>
> The original Copper-Nickel alloy which inspired Celani to do this recent
> work came from Ahern, and showed the excellent predicted results, much
> better than palladium, which corroborated the Romanowski paper. That paper
> was based on simulation, not experiment; and Ahern's work offered the 
> first
> important corroboration. He chose the alloy (which was supplied by Ames
> Labs) specifically from the Romanowski data (details of which Celani
> curiously misquoted in his paper).
>
> BTW - with titanium-nickel alloys (both metals implicated in prior LENR
> experiments) - there was NO excess heat, despite having good 
> nano-features.
> That pretty much tells you that it is completely incorrect to label this 
> as
> a surface morphology effect only. Pure nano-nickel is poor, pure
> nano-palladium is poor but an alloy of 90% Pd and 10% Ni is excellent
> (though not as good as the Cu-Ni alloys). The differences are not small.
>
> For excess heating, according to Ahern - you must have the 2-12 nm surface
> features and you must ALSO have the proper spillover alloy, which 
> Romanowski
> essentially nailed.
>
> Hopefully EPRI will publish the study soon.
>
> Jones
> 

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