On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 4:54 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>wrote:

Hence, when someone adamantly relies on CoE, saying that such and such is
> impossible since it would violate CoE, they are not a scientist in my mind.
>

I don't know about the "not a scientist" part, but I personally have no
profound attachment to CoE.  :)  Assume that CoE is understood today as:

    Eout - Ein = 0

What if, instead, it were really:

    Eout - Ein = k

for very small k, or, more interestingly,

    Eout - Ein = f(t)

for f(t) ~ 0 at this time.

Scientists see fit to posit parallel universes and dark energy and so on,
so I see no reason to conclude that the known universe is a closed system.
 Perhaps, every time there is a reaction that involves electromagnetic
radiation, you get a little less out than goes in, and we just balance the
books with neutrinos and other gimics that would make Enron proud.

My earlier comments were a futile attempt to understand how a LENR reaction
involving titanium could be endothermic.  It's probably not all that
difficult, as it turns out, and my lack of understanding of thermodynamics
was getting in the way.

Eric

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