Interesting thought but checkout the spectrum for Ni -> http://www.xrfresearch.com/component/content/article/71-periodic-table/160-xrf-spectrum-nickel.html
Colin On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Mark Goldes <[email protected]>wrote: > I've copied this from ecat news. > > A very interesting Comment on the e-catworld.com Blog from a user called > “Fluffy”. > It’s about the secret element used in rossi’s e-cat (and maybe in > defkalions hyperion). > > He thought it’s Tungsten (Wolfram) -> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten > > “Rossi’s Possible Tungsten Line at 8.31 keV > > In Andrea Rossi’s original patent application > > > http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/en/detailPdf.jsf?ia=IT2008000532&docIdPdf=id00000009056757&name=%28WO2009125444%29METHOD%20AND%20APPARATUS%20FOR%20CARRYING%20OUT%20NICKEL%20AND%20HYDROGEN%20EXOTHERMAL%20REACTIONS&woNum=WO2009125444&prevRecNum=1&nextRecNum=2&recNum=1&queryString=&office=&sortOption=&prevFilter=&maxRec= > > there are two charts that show the results of an XRF (X-ray > fluorescence)spectrum analysis on a sample of used powder from an E-Cat > unit that had been in operation for an undisclosed period of time. Although > many of the elements found in the analysis are labeled on the chart, one > significant “spike” or “line” is not. This anomalous line could possibly be > the element tungsten. > > XRF fluorescence works by subjecting the material to be tested to x-rays, > that can knock electrons out of their orbit in the atoms of the sample > material. When another electron moves in to fill the gap produced by the > missing electron, a photon is emitted. By measuring the energy of these > photons (in keV or kilo-electron volts) and how many are produced, you can > determine the composition of a sample of material. A chart produced using > the data from an XRF spectrum analysis will show a spike or line for each > element present. When there is very little of an element in a sample of > material these spikes will be small, and perhaps hard to distinguish from > “noise” or other elements. However, when there is a lot of a specific > element in a sample, the spike or line will have a significant amplitude. > > The two charts in Rossi’s patent show many lines, some of which indicate a > very significant amount of certain elements. All of the lines that seem to > be significant are labeled, except one. If you look at the following chart > from his patent you will see that there is one line that is not labeled. > This line is between the lines of Nickel and Zinc, and it sits at about 8.3 > electron volts. > > There have been a few comments on the web about this graph. The following > is from the comments section in a story posted on ecatnews.com. > > http://ecatnews.com/?p=829 > > “I went back and counted pixels with MS Paint to do a more thorough job of > identifying this component. > > It’s not Copper at all. It’s Tungsten. > > The material is a Ni-W-Zn alloy metal foam.” > > There are also comments on various websites about how Tungsten can behave > like a catalyst, and is used in atomic hydrogen torches to separate > molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen. I remember Rossi stating on his > blog that Tungsten is not used in the E-Cat, when asked a question about > it. However, after searching his blog at the Journal of Nuclear Physics, I > cannot find that comment. > > To try and figure out if the anomalous line in this chart could be > Tungsten, I did some digging on the internet. As a non-scientist I did not > understand everything. However, I did find out that Tungsten has a keV > signature that is close to the 8.3. > > According to a chart on this website > http://www.xrfresearch.com/technology/xrf-spectra/182-xrf-spectrum-tungsten.html, > one of Tungsten’s possible signatures is 8.39 keV. This is close to 8.31, > which is what I calculated by studying the chart from Rossi’s patent. Also, > I found a few references to Tungsten having a signature of 8.3 keV. > > It seems like the line between nickel and zinc in the chart could be > Tungsten. There are other possibilities, including copper and nickel. > However, if that line was copper or nickel, I wonder why it was not > labeled? It does not make sense to me that they would not label the line as > copper or nickel, if that was the identity of the element. What would make > sense to me, is if the element was Tungsten, and they did not label it as > such to try and hide the fact Tungsten is used in the powder. > > So if this line is Tungsten, how does it fit into what we know about what > we have been told about Rossi’s catalyst? > > 1) Tungsten is not a precious metal. This fits what we have been told, > that no precious metals are used in the E-Cat. > > 2) It has a very high melting point at 3422C which is much higher than the > melting point of nickel which is around 1400C. Since we have been told the > temperature inside the E-Cat reactor core routinely reaches 1600C, perhaps > the addition of Tungsten increases the melting point of the powder inside > the E-Cat. Something needs to increase the melting point, because when the > nickel melts inside of an E-Cat the reaction sites are destroyed, and the > nuclear reactions end. A blend of nickel and Tungsten could be what allows > for the E-Cat to operate at higher temperature than the melting point of > nickel. > > 3) We also know that tungsten can be a catalyst in various applications, > including helping to produce atomic hydrogen. We have been told that the > catalysts in Rossi’s system help produce atomic hydrogen, which can then > interact with the reaction sites on the nickel powder. Could tungsten > produce atomic hydrogen in an E-Cat? > > 4) If I remember correctly, Tungsten has been used in other cold fusion > systems. > > Rossi made an interesting comment on his blog. He stated the following. > > Andrea Rossi > February 23rd, 2012 at 11:05 AM > > Dear Helmut H.: > Not only MIT, but many others. Many copies derived from our patent > application have been made, this is why the competition is on the market: > who will be able to produce the best at the best price will win. > Warm Regards, > A.R. > > If copies can be derived from the patent application, does that mean that > it might have information about the catalysts? > > I am hoping that there are people who read E-Catworld that understand more > than I do about physics, that can determine the identity of the anomalous > line. If we can determine what it is and if tungsten really is used in the > E-Cat, it could help us better understand this amazing technology.” > > > > Mark Goldes > Co-founder, Chava Energy > CEO, Aesop Institute > 301A North Main Street > Sebastopol, CA 95472 > > www.chavaenergy.com > www.aesopinstitute.org > > 707 861-9070 > 707 497-3551 fax >
