How about heating air for aviation ?
 
JG Moreau
 


Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:08:29 +0000
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Feb 1st 2012 National Research Council News Release & Report: 
NASA's 16 top technical challenges for the next 5 years
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

There is simply no way that LENR will be useful for getting stuff to orbit - 
unless it is used as a method for making cheaper chemical rocket fuels, and 
even then rocket fuel costs are only a few % of a launch.
- LENR power density is far too low (a 3500kg SSME delivers 9GW of power, ie 
2.5MW/kg)
- The temperature (<700°C) is too low to heat hydrogen sufficiently to give a 
competitive specific impulse to match the density and performance of other 
chemical fuels.  With LENR/LH2 at 1000°C you might get to 6000m/s exhaust 
velocity but LOX/LH2 can do 4700m/s and is a far more dense and cheap fuel 
combination than using all expensive LH2 (a tremendously bulky and expensive 
fuel requiring enormous well insulated tanks).


However LENR will be tremendously useful for moving stuff around slowly in 
orbit and interplanetary space using various types of high Isp plasma drives.



On 5 February 2012 21:06, Chemical Engineer <[email protected]> wrote:




http://ns1.nianet.org/workshops/pdfs/Olds%20LaRC%20Workshop%20Presentation%20Final.pdf


Page 14 shows an LENR thermal propulsion prototype from 2009 - 18 GW!

LENR Rocket
Fully Reusable SSTO Vehicle powered by Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR) 
Propulsion
Reactor Power
Payload
LOX-Augmented Nuclear Thermal Rocket
(H2) with LENR Reactor
18 GW
20,000 lbs to LEO




On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Chemical Engineer <[email protected]> wrote:




I will interpret "Nuclear Thermal Propulsion" to including LENR... 5 years 
would not be too bad for something not on the near horizon 1 year ago.  
Hopefully we can have a residential HVAC/Generator before that or at least 
something to heat our coffee.

http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=13354 


-- radiation mitigation for human spaceflight; -- guidance, navigation, and 
control; -- optical systems; -- long-duration crew health; -- solar power 
generation; -- high-contrast imaging and spectroscopy technologies; -- 
environmental control and life support systems; -- electric propulsion; -- 
detectors and focal planes; -- instruments and sensors; -- fission power 
generation; -- lightweight and multifunctional materials and structures; -- 
nuclear thermal propulsion; -- entry, descent, and landing thermal protection 
systems; -- active thermal control of cryogenic systems; and 

                                          

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