snip> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> There are a lot of these claims, aren't there? >>>> >>>> >>> Yes and so far, all have been scams or failures or both. >>> >> >> Untrue. The Curies' claim of anomalous energy was not a failure. >> Muon-catalyzed fusion and the fusor are real, and I expect Taleyarkhan's >> sono fusion is real. It probably does not produce significant heat. >> > I thought you were speaking of the current rash of crappola such as magnetic motors, free energy whirly things and heaters, and such nonsense as "HHO" gas and cars running on water. We see a lot of that these days. > Not the same at all. The web site in question is full of claims of free > energy or practical energy based on some exotic new physical phenomenon. Of > your examples, only sono fusion comes close (as a claim), and none of them > have delivered as practical energy sources, so in that sense they are > failures, although not scams. > I guarantee you based on past experience, most if not all have some scam hidden in them. Finding the scam is another matter. > <snip> > Thanks for the history lessons. > As many people have pointed out, all attempts to fly before the Wright > brothers failed, but that did not mean the Wrights did not fly. > > Obviously not, but you're missing the point. Skeptics doubt Rossi > fundamentally because of the lack of evidence. But a lot of people believe > him because of the scientists that seem to be convinced. Considering that > sort of meta-evidence, the fact that he enlists an organization that > promotes a lot of failed free-energy scams or proposals, suggests that he > has been unable to enlist a more legitimate organization that sells power > to the people. > That he enlists a most probably scamming bunch of scoundrels suggests that he's either desperate or exceedingly careless and sloppy or ridiculously stupid about such matters or some mix of the above. None of it is good. I'd call those guys (Schneiders) criminals but I can't prove they aren't simply idiots so I won't call them crooks without better evidence. Hey, that could be libel. A man who had a legitimate proven tabletop fusion reactor wouldn't need to go to the sort of scum Rossi patronizes. He'd be able to get a hearing with virtually any powerful company or individual on Earth and then he could properly prove that his device is real. You aren't curious about why Rossi doesn't immediately do that? Why he hasn't grabbed Kullander, Essen, Levi and Focardi, had the four together agree on and develop an absolute killer of a demonstration that over-proves his case, and then presented it to some rich and famous people? After all the time that has passed, it just makes no sense at all.
