Jones,
Ok that may apply to  the major surface area and a vacuum may be necessary to 
degass  but Stremmenos' point about absorbing an enormous quantity of hydrogen 
after heat + vacuum purifying his powder suggests that the nano pores and 
defects of his micro particles as delivered remain oxidized. Perhaps we are 
describing "clean" at 2 different scales and again tripping over the difference 
between normal surface area / volume between particles and the more extreme 
Casimir geometry where I posit the relativistic volume is magnitudes larger 
than the spatial volume appears from our perspective ...... MAYBE Rossi's 
secret ingredient is a chemical that enhances the Casimir effect by either 
cleaning or backfilling the existing cavities such that more hydrogen is 
translated to extreme fractional values up to 1/137.
Regards
Fran



[snip]
Anyhow, this is very important, because I observed it and then told Sergio. If 
we degassed (nickel powder, at this point) at an extremely low pressure, i.e.. 
10-6, which is one-millionth of atmospheric pressure, for one week at a 
temperature of 500° [Celsius], so that all the oxides on the surface of the 
micro-particles of nickel were eliminated (this means all of the oxides that 
have formed, because we are surrounded by an oxygen atmosphere) ... well, upon 
charging it, it sucked up, how can I put it, an enormous quantity of hydrogen 
(I was using hydrogen). And the temperature, which had been 500°, began to rise 
considerably, and got higher and higher, over the 1000° mark. I got scared, and 
shut everything down [laughs], because, I said to myself, "This is going to 
blow up"!
The temperature went up very fast. Probably there was chemical reaction too ... 
specifically, hydrides were being formed, which are... I didn't have the 
patience to wait until it reached a steady level, but the previous experiments 
which ... as far as exothermic emission from nickel is concerned ... this 
excess [of heat] went on even for six months, so it did ... but it wasn't 
absorbing all that much hydrogen ... so I understood that the trick was 
purifying the nickel as much as possible... Talking out all the gases it 
absorbs ... plus the oxides formed on the surface of the nickel 
micro-particles.[/snip]

From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 11:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:cheap ball mill / glove box alternative to Bell jar?

You do not need to flush the ball mill with helium. Nickel resists oxidation at 
ambient very well, and any surface oxide remaining will be reduced on the first 
contact with hydrogen.

If this is un-activated Raney-type nickel you are milling, of course you know 
to activate after ball milling, NOT before.


From: Roarty, Francis X

Would ball milling nickel in a glove box of helium produce a similar oxygen 
free powder without the need for a bell jar to out gas?

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