Stephen 

 

To answer the first problem - I believe that the specific heat goes up as
the temperature rises, and is a higher the closer you get to m.p.

 

*   130 KW for 15 minutes is actually 32.5 KWh. 

 

Only if that heat suddenly comes to a dead stop and you average over the
hour ! Not likely - I corrected the post to say if the rate of heating
continues for a full hour, it could melt over a ton of steel, but that is
not the point.

 

The point is that there should have been copious steam - there was none. I
hope that you are not suggesting that this is physically possible..

 

.plus, stainless conducts heat so poorly that a 5 KG reactor would surely
melt before that rate of energy release could be sustained for 15 minutes
anyway - do you really doubt that?

 

To answer Esa's question the report which got all of this nonsense started
is not public. It was intended to be shown to Levi first - and the author is
not "my expert" and in fact was unknown to be until two days ago.

 

Jones

 

 

 

 

 

Say WHAT?



Query:  is "problematic" Rossi-speak or Rothwell-speak for "physically
impossible"?

 

 

The specific heat of steel is 420J/KG/Deg C - and this equates to a heat
requirement of approximately 375 KWh to melt one ton of steel from room
temperature.


Quick check:

Let's see, 420 joules = 0.00012 KWh, so the specific heat of steel is about
0.00012 KWh/KG/Deg C.  (A quick check of specific heat table gives
reasonable agreement with your figure, so we'll go with yours.)

Melting point of steel depends on the steel but we'll say 1500 C.  So, the
energy required to raise a kilogram of steel to its melting point is about
1500 * 0.00012 = 0.18 KWh, and the energy required to raise a ton of the
stuff to its melting point is about 900 times that, or about 162 KWh.

This is quite a bit smaller than your number.  Perhaps you're including
energy to disrupt the crystal structure; I don't know if that's necessary
when figuring energy to melt steel (it sure is if you're melting water, of
course).  In any case, for the sake of argument I'll use your number.

Let's move on:




 

130 KW was the supposed heated delivered by the Rossi device, according to
the report - applied in 15 minutes, which is 420 KW/hr


Please note that you have just *divided* the power by the duration (which
was 1/4 hour) and claimed that's the total energy, which is not quite right.
In fact, KW/hr is a senseless unit, unless you're talking about a rate of
increase in heat production.  

130 KW for 15 minutes is actually 32.5 KWh.





 

This amount of heat would have melted over a ton of steel


No, it wouldn't.  32.5 KWh is a great deal smaller than 375 KWh.  It's also
a great deal smaller than 162 KWh.






and Rothwell thinks it that it represents reality in a 5 kilo reactor !


Your argument would have been more persuasive had you not divided where you
should have multiplied.

 

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