See the message "NiO is the answer" On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
> Axil, > > > > Ø > > Ø Loading hydrogen into Rust does not produce nuclear derived heat. > > > > Correct – it produce iron and water. I do not see Fe2O3 specifically as > being involved at all in Rossi. > > > > FeO – however, when fully supported (shared oxygen) does make sense - but > not Fe2O3. After all, the Swedes said iron in some form was there at a fair > percentage, and they did sophisticated testing. > > > > Hydrogen reduction is one way that low carbon iron is processed from iron > ore by the way. Iron ore is essentially rust. How to you propose to > attenuate the reduction of rust inside the Rossi cell ? It could not last an > hour. > > > > Having said that – your speculation about nickel oxide and copper oxide as > Mott insulators does have merit, BUT ONLY when they are positioned to share > their oxygen atom with the zirconia support. Otherwise they would be rapidly > reduced also. In the same way, FeO is possible to be used as a catalyst - if > and when supported on a dielectric, plus FeO is probably a Mott insulator. I > don’t think rust qualifies at all, since it is fairly conductive. > > > > BTW – iron oxides of various levels have been used in tonnage as a bulk > catalysts with hydrogen for a long time – that much is true. When used in > the Haber process, the oxides are partially reduced ahead of time, and there > is a competing oxidant present (nitrogen) which lowers the rate of full > reduction to iron, but even so - catalyst must be replaced periodically and > often, which is inconsistent with running a Rossi reactor continuously. Rust > or magnetite was ideal in the original Haber process since it is more > valuable when reduced, than as a refined ore. > > > > If there was to be any heat anomaly involving rust - we would have known > about it long ago, as the ammonia industry is old, competitive and was a > national priority 100 years ago. Every detail of Haber and its offshoots has > been thoroughly analyzed. > > > > Jones > > > > >
