It is a little unclear to me who is saying what to whom in this message. In future, Murray should please mark sections with a dotted line or QUOTE (what I do) or something else two show the divisions between his comments and the material he quotes from.

I gather this part is Murray's:

As a thoroughly unqualified, but careful, layman critic of cold
fusion papers since December, 1996, I have to apply tedious
examination of every detail in order to feret out simple facts
that so far are always available to seriously question the
research.

My working hypothesis is that there is no evidence for
anomalies that imply the reality of low energy nuclear
reactions, except for muon catalyzed fusion.

That's Murray's content. Right?

I disagree, obviously. An effect that produces 50 to 300 MJ from a few grams of metal cannot be anything other than a nuclear reaction, or some unknown reaction even more powerful.


Therefore the hundreds of published, peer-reviewed papers
since 1989 are straining at gnats, forcing preconceived
interpretations onto complex and chaotic test systems that in
fact are generating random results.

The results do not seem random to me. McKubre, Miles and others have demonstrated clear correlations to materials, loading, current density and other conditions. See, for example, McKubre's graph on the front page of LENR-CANR:

"Simultaneous Series Operation of Light & Heavy Water Cells;Excess Power vs. Current Density."

This not at all chaotic or random.

The factors that give rise to this particular correlation may not have an deep significance that directly indicates the mechanism. They may be more an indication of chemical or the mechanical conditions needed to give rise to cold fusion. In other words, they may be something analogous to the need for tightly controlled simultaneous chemical explosions to trigger an implosion fission bomb. But the explosion of a fission bomb is manifestly a nuclear event, and the requirements and characteristics of the chemical explosion triggering it does tell you a lot about the nuclear event. A cold fusion reaction is also manifestly a nuclear event, and even if loading and current density are chemical parameters, at some level they tell us a lot about the nuclear event. Or they would tell us, if we understood the reaction. They will after a theory emerges, when it may be too late for the information to be much use. (Along similar lines, after the Wright brothers figured out most of the engineering physics of flight, they were able to analyze the flight characteristics of sea birds at Kitty Hawk. I recall one of them wrote it was fun to do this, but the information came too late to be useful. It was kind of like figuring out how a magician does a particular trick after you already know how magicians work.)

To extend the analogy, what we are doing now is akin to knocking masses of plutonium together without a general theory of how fission reactions work, and without an effective method such as implosion. This produces various confusing reactions at times but no big bang. (This is only an analogy; I realize that fooling around blindly with plutonium would be far more dangerous than making trial and error observations of super-saturated bulk palladium.)

- Jed

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