Robin van Spaandonk wrote:

BTW I find the whole idea of using the volume of the cathode to compare energy
densities "proving" some form of fusion to be silly. Clearly the volume of
electrolyte is of far more consequence, given that it is this which contains the
putative fuel anyway.

I disagree. Assuming it is fusion, the potential energy of the electrolyte is so huge it is almost irrelevant. Only a tiny fraction of the deuterium is consumed, which is why it is so hard to measure the helium.

The comparison to the volume of the cathode -- or if you like, the volume of the entire cell -- is only done to rule out chemistry. Heck, you can throw in the volume of the table and all the books in the room in a few cases. Cells that produce 50 to 300 MJ far exceed all of these limits. Strictly speaking however, this it cannot "rule in" a nuclear effect. It is a figure of merit. It is the absolute minimum limit of the energy release because there is no way a significant fraction of the fuel could be used in the time allotted to an experiment.

As far as I know the energy release has never gone so high that it exceeds the limits of the Mill's hydrino theory (superchemistry). So, if you believe that the Mills effect is real, so far the only way you can "rule in" a nuclear effect is to confirm the helium, and not mistake it for shrunken hydrinos.

- Jed

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