At 11:11 AM 12/16/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

On 12/16/2009 10:45 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

2. The battery. They have a capacitor battery replacement. They charge
it up to the battery voltage and replace the battery with it. The device
keeps running. They even show the capacitor voltage. Damn! The peak is
staying constant or is even increasing slowly.

You can stop right there. This step can not be part of a con. That's the end of the road; at that point we're done. The New Day has Dawned. No need for transparent panels, save to show there's no hidden battery anyplace.

And, of course, it's the step we're never going to see.

That step is very much part of the con. Suppose the battery is a red herring. The energy is coming from a hidden source, and it is perfectly capable of boosting the capacitor voltage for a time. That you think that this demonstration would seal it shows that you've been successfully distracted by the magician. The con could be extremely sophisticated, the hidden source could provide the boost needed in a quite measured way, even difficult to detect by measuring voltages in the system. I believe that it would still be possible to detect, but it could take very careful measurement, and a more fruitful approach would be a detailed and very careful examination, including x-rays, of a working model.

That or multiple fully independent replications, from detailed design information, perhaps part of a patent application. That's what patents were supposed to encourage. Full disclosure, in return for protection.

Patent for Design that Increases Run Time of a Battery-Powered Motor.

Design that provides charging current for a battery from rotary motion.

If the essential operating details for an over-unity device are there, the device is effectively patented without needing to claim over unity, which becomes a mere new application for a patented technology. I'm not a patent lawyer, for sure, but that really ought to be enough.

If you aren't engaged in conning investors.

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