On 12/04/2009 01:21 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

DNA is destroyed by cooking.

But prions aren't, and that's where mad cow comes from.

Ah yes. Good point. However, as Abd points out you can avoid this by not eating the brain or spinal chord. And remember, this is cultured meat, which has big advantages in this regard:

* You start with a single donor cell. So don't use a brain cell!

* You can produce any number of samples from the cell and then test them for prions or genetic problems such as proteins that do not fold properly (as you mentioned).

Once you are sure the meat is okay, then you produce a lot of it. I think I read that a single cell could produce a significant fraction of the world supply of meat, although it runs out eventually. (Stops dividing.)

It shouldn't,  not if it's a stem cell.  Stem cells express telomerase.

Ideally you'd use stem cells for the "main line" and periodically produce "differentiated batches" of cells for consumption. That requires a pretty detailed knowledge of the triggers for differentiation, however, and I don't know if such knowledge currently exists.

Cancer cells may express telomerase as well -- at least, I'm pretty sure the really lethal ones do; that's how they can take over the entire body without running up against the Hayflick limit -- but they're probably less useful than stem cells for this operation. (For one thing, I'm afraid there might be a marketing issue with meat derived entirely from tumors.)



These advantages are similar to the ones derived from cloning. In fact, it is more or less the same thing, except that cloning is natural after the first step, and you only get one animal. The point is, you know beforehand how much meat the animal will have, and what the quality will be. It also resembles cloning in that concerns about the safety of cloned animals have been raised. I think these concerns are reasonable and should be tested for, both for cloning and cultured meat.

- Jed


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