Krebbs cycle: H2O2 hydrogen-peroxide is present within the metabolic intracellular energyproducing/respiration 'Krebbs Cycle' constantly. Likely as not a hydrolytic spin-off relative to this ubiquitous cellular function creates H2 & O2 intracellularly in sufficient amounts. And in the present of a high outside-the-body ambient EM charge in our modern & routine high exposure to direct-EM &/or static-charge fields such as spending long hours closely in front of TV phosphorescence. The TV cathode-ray direct field is actually quite formidable. And our body's are obviously water-based sacks of constantly active electro-chemical/electro-valent activity; hydrolysis causing large H2 & O2 presence saturation of the intracellular corpus-matrix could possibly be sparked the something prozaic like a simple static spark &/or cigarette ignition of pulmonary respiration having a H2/O2 exhaust straight from the lungs. Or maybe even a simple static shock to any part of the body might initiate a massive whole body fire/reaction in this enviroment. Where there is water/H2O chemical interactive & hydrolytic systems this potential is actually so high that it is a wonder that we do not see it more often. And maybe we do but it stays confined to small internal areas but deals a lethal affect that is routinely written off as the 'effects of aging' etc. especially of course in the elderly-shut-ins in front of TV-sets all day whom the effect seems to predominate among.
Thusly 'dragon's breath' might not be such a myth as we haved surmised.-JO- > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 13:16:44 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC) > To: [email protected] > > I may want to retract my ref to Heffners' and Haischs' theory below - I > believe their version may only require the cavity translation and is > independent of bonding. > Fran > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roarty, Francis X [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:05 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC) > > > [Snip] point 3 > 3) A pre-exisiting genetic factor that is little known - and would be > involved with the LENR or hot hydrogen process itself, "after" combustion > initiation by mundane effects, and which could be a factor similar to what > is seen in this video, of a family that has unusual magnetic bio-fields: > [end snip] > > Jones, > I agree with your points 1 and 2 but disagree with your timing mentioned in > point 3 ' "after" combustion initiation by mundane effects" ' > You know I endorse relativistic hydrogen vs the hydrino to avoid sub ground > state and explain the non radiative nature of the hydrino but regardless of > which view you take there is no need for combustion to create heat. Bonds are > restored to monatomic energy levels by the nature of the Casimir cavity in > all of these theories (Mills, Haisch, Heffner and my own). I would interpret > the SHC as the mundane combustion following the loading and acceleration of > monatomic ambient gases in the porous cavities of human bone. I think the SHC > is similar to the Japanese results with hydrogen gas diffused and allowed to > soak in Pd nano materials. > Best Regards > Fran > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC) > > ----Original Message----- > From: Horace Heffner > > I think spontaneous human combustion (SHC) is worthy of consideration > in relation to cold fusion because (a) there is solid evidence it > exists and (b) it may provide clues as to how to achieve a robust > free or nuclear energy process in a chemical environment. This has > been discussed in this forum in past years. A summary of my comments > here is provided at: > > http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/SHC.pdf > > > Yes, we have tossed around some wild ideas in the past. > > This piece is a good and relatively non-controversial statement of a > controversial situation - since it might portend or suggest the LENR factor. > If the range of possible explanations and contributing factors were to be > made more complete - then it could also mention several other details: > > 1) Bifurcation from the mundane "initiator" - The interconnection (in many > of the cases) with cigarettes, alcohol, obesity and season (usually winter). > These would only explain the initiation of the phenomenon, and the > "starved-flame" scenario which "should" then be self-quenching, or else > consume the entire residence. Since that does not happen, we must move on to > step two, which could then relate to LENR, or to .... > > 2) The hydrino, "hot hydrogen" (Langmuir) or alternative fractional-hydrogen > explanation. Either or which can very likely depend on: > > 3) A pre-exisiting genetic factor that is little known - and would be > involved with the LENR or hot hydrogen process itself, "after" combustion > initiation by mundane effects, and which could be a factor similar to what > is seen in this video, of a family that has unusual magnetic bio-fields: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mADlT9FALOs > > Note: the last is NOT offered as a partial explanation for SHC itself - but > only shows that there could be a hidden genetic factor in the accumulation > of certain kinds of metal, in this case with strong external fields - and > that this genetic factor itself is responsible for the SHC effect following > initiation, but has yet to be isolated. This would be true even if the video > turns out to be some kind of hoax. > > For instance, if there were found real evidence (transmutation isotopes), in > the analysis of the ash of SHC - or tritium for instance - to suggest a > valid LENR connection, then a genetic trait which might contribute to that > would be a propensity for the tissues (or bone surfaces, most likely) of the > victim to accumulate an "active metal" or catalytic alloy - not palladium, > since it is rare, but possible an alloy of nickel perhaps with lithium or > boron. Plus we suspect that tobacco is an accumulator of radionuclides. > Tobacco abuse is often seen in SHC victims. > > http://www.webspawner.com/users/radioactivethreat/ > > It is all fascinating, and if you look closely at only the "mundane" > explanation, it only gets you as far as the combustion initiator, and > possibly the source of some of the radioactivity - but not to the complete > anomaly and unusual reaction, so to speak, which notably does not spread > beyond the victim. > > Then - moving a little further afield, there is the idea of a "troubled > soul", but let's not go there. We are already over the top of most "BS > alarms" (including my own). > > Jones > > > _________________________________________________________________ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx
