Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/
--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Harry Veeder <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Harry Veeder <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire > Carrying a Constant Current > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:07 PM > > Maxwell's theory needs the field concept. The theory says > and electric force > can not be present without an electric field. > > If we follow Maxwell's theory to the letter, it says there > will be no > electric field outside a current carrying wire. > Consequently, the theory > leads one to expect an electric force is absent as well. I doubt whether I can quite understand the intricacies involved with the arguments here, not actually having read Maxwells theories, but I could certainly make comments of a practical nature concerning the practical experimental effects which can be proven. Every changing electric field produces a changing magnetic field/ and vice versa, and those effects should be derivatives of each other as the cos wave is the derivative of the sin wave in differential calculus, and then further interpreted that the actions of the electric and magnetic fields in manifestations of oscillating energies in resonance are themselves 90 degrees out of phase. But this is beside the main point. The main point to be made is that a coil of 23 gauge wire containing almost 20,000 winds can have such a high inductance at 500 hz ranges via car alternator input that the capacity for it to resonate could be so small that it could be fashioned as a small cylindrical electrical shell of inner and outer diameters that could fit inside the volume core of another identical high induction coil. The energy oscillation between L and C of the source frequency resonance in some cases can be greater then the ohmic I^2R losses on the coil itself. Induction between the first and second coil can occur simply because that changing electric field inside the core volume of the second coil connected by wire means alone induces secondary currents via the fact that every changing electric field manifests its geometrical counterpart as a changing magnetic field, ect... I see here however that no electric field is present on a steady state DC current on a wire, where it is assumed that the entirety of the electric field is across the wire, and not outside the wire itself. This is why the argument seems hard to follow. It then seems that like a salesman I can show and demonstrate a further argument greater then this. It is possible to show current conduction with no apparent voltage source, where these effects are solely shown thru air core induction. And these effects can be easily explained by previous examples. To give a simple example during the helium discharge, a dual coil step down air core tuned transformer can be placed atop the dual coils of the 20-30 ma amperage circulation of each of the 840 ohm coils. No voltage is recorded on either open end of that secondary combination, but once a load is given, or an amperage meter across one of the two open ended connections, .11 A conduction is noted. If the sending device is itself shut off and given alternate grounding, then again zero vooltage is shown between the potentials, but now an even higher current of .15 A is drawn; fROM A UTILITY STRIP SELECTED TO THE OFF POSITION. > Weber's theory is not built on the field concept, so this > curious > expectation does not arise. > > My analysis is based on reading of this preface to the book > suggested > by Taylor J. Smith. > http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~assis/Preface-Webers-Electrodynamics.pdf Thanx, I have bookmarked this... one more comment from below... and another > > > component due to the acceleration of the > conduction electrons in a > > > curved wire carrying a dc current (centripetal > acceleration). If drift electron velocity exchange by electrical bombardment between conductive atoms is considered, my physics book gives an example where the battery voltage of a starter motor in an automobile is cited. It is shown that if the diameter of the conduction wire is large the drift velocity is low in comparison. In fact if we take the next example of the DC current introduced to the rotating electromagnet of the DC field of an alternator by slip rings, we find by logic that the drift current can be in the same direction as the external rotation of the rotating electromagnet, or it can be in the opposite direction if the field polarity is reversed. The effects of (centripetal acceleration) as noted above seem conclusive in light of the fact that when no field current is engaged, a stator voltage and current still evidences itself from the unenergized field rotor in rotation itself, and to remove this effect is to send a field polarity in opposition to that brought upon the macroscopic rotation itself. It may be sensible to think that the current then made across the field rotor exhibits no rotating magnetism across the stator coil for the simple fact that the relatively small linear separation speed between the slip rings and the conductions of the field rotor in rotation have exactly cancelled out the also relatively slow drift velocity of the conduction electrons in the circuit. HDN
