On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Kyle Mcallister wrote:

Or lack thereof.

Tests using various cage-to-race tightnesses showed no motoring effect whatsoever, even with enough current applied to cause heavy automotive jumper cables to become uncomfortably hot. Identical shaft and flywheel setup was used as in the ball bearing motor which works flawlessly. With this setup, there is no noticeable change in deceleration speed of the motor, though the 'growling' noise of the internal arcing is still heard, as with the ball bearing motor.

This is a bit of a surprise. I would have thought with that much current it would have had at least some sign of working. I guess there is probably more inherent friction. Magnetically it is not nearly as good as ball bearings because the current i is spread out over the width of the bearing, and that means the B field is reduced in proportion, which means the i L x mu0 M force due to hysteresis, being a product, is reduced significantly. The combination of all three factors must be enough to wipe out visible torque.

Just to be sure the parts were all magnetic it might be worthwhile to check them with a magnet. If you don't have a magnet small enough, then a cut off flat head nail stuck to a good magnet can make for a handy tester.



Bearings used (2): National Bearing S-A-12 automobile wheel bearings, obtained from Advance Auto Parts.
Shaft: 5/8" all thread, steel. 12" long.
Power supply: 12V 1200 peak Ampere car booster

Horace... I did look for nonmagnetic bearings composed of brass or something similar. Nothing here. If I have some spare time (not sure when for a while) I will go down to Buffalo Bearing and ask what can be had.

--Kyle

I have to call ahead to my bearing shop, because the bearing store here is in Anchorage, which is a 100 mile round trip drive for me. They didn't have any such bearings - not even stainless steel, so I saved myself a trip.

Thanks for doing that experiment. It is further confirmation that the source of torque for the Marinov Ball Bearing Motor is hysteresis, and that there really is nothing "Marinov" about it.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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