Re item 1 above - I believe that subways and trolleys still use vacuum
incandescent bulbs (at least they used to). They would run five 120V bulbs
in series for lighting (5 x 120 = 600 - the third rail voltage). I remember
seeing these five bulb arrays in the NYC subway in the past. You would
probably have to go through a specialty electrical supply house to get them
- or your local trolley museum.

 - Jim D


On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 12:17 PM William Beaty <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jul 2025, Robin wrote:
>
> > 1) wrap a coil around a strong magnet (or maybe just an Iron rod?), that
> is aligned with the Earth's magnetic field,
> > such that the Earth's field lines are concentrated in the body of the
> magnet (or Iron rod).
> > 2) Attach a capacitor to the coil such the resonant frequency of the
> tank circuit matches the Schumann resonance.
> > 3) See if any energy can be harvested from the circuit.
>
> Tesla was working at 1KHz, sometimes 5KHz.  The Corums ran simulations
> with planetary Zenneck surface waves and supported this, also finding that
> 10KHz and above was fairly useless, and above 30KHz insignificant.  Tesla
> said the same, discovered from experiment.  "Earth resonance" is a 1KHz
> phenomenon.  (Plus all the overtones of 11.8Hz, or of 8Hz if you prefer.)
>
> So, just need to wind a 1KHz LC resonator, with extremely high Q.  Provide
> lots of side-taps, and add a series of low-loss 1uF capacitors.  I think
> you can get huge litz wire from cheap $10 induction cooker coils sold on
> eBay.  Also, low loss HV 0.33uF capacitors for induction cooker main tank
> circuit.
>
> More practical would be to experiment with the Sutton Spaniol active VLF
> antenna, to verify the physics.  Never tried it myself.  Their trick is to
> make a perfect conductor by the same method as superregen radio:  add an
> active circuit for negative resistance, in parallel with the loop antenna,
> adjusted to cancel out the resistance of the coil and capacitor.  It's a
> DIY hobbyist superconductor resonator.  I did build one of these
> canceled-resistance inductors.  It acts just like a hall-effect sensor,
> since it integrates changes in magnetic flux (it linearly detects
> approaching magnets, just like an analog hall sensor does.  Use this as
> arrays, to build superconductor shield panels.  Weird battery-powered
> superconductor phenomenon.)
>
> So, we must adjust our Sutton/spaniol antenna for stability while
> shielded, then remove shielding and see how large a wave appears.  It will
> SEEM to be unwanted oscillation. That's what conventional hobbyists would
> expect, and they'd simply ignore the results.  (Probably a gigantic 60Hz
> and 120Hz wave appears.  Ignore it as unwanted noise?  But what if you're
> actually seeing resonant power-theft, with significant wattage!)
>
> But, if you intentionally built an "artificial" superconducting coil, then
> obtained some massive received signals, we should properly put it down
> to "mag
> loop" physics, and ascribe it to all the weird results seen with
> electrically small
> radio antennas having immense Q-factor.  (Heh, it's an infinite Q in this
> case, same as supercon loops.)  If any resonant RF signal impinges on the
> coil, a sine wave should
> start ramping up and up.  It will stop increasing as soon as the radiative
> losses from loop-antenna's transmission are equal to the incoming received
> signal.  Much like charging up a capacitor from ambient DC e-fields, but
> in this case it's the oscillatory analog.
>
> The Corums say this doesn't work, because the sharp Earth-resonances
> wander around on a time scale of ~20 seconds.  So, you can never get the
> tuning of your resonator correct.   It would somehow have to track the
> moving planetary resonances in realtime.
>
> But the Sutton-Spaniol "black hole antenna" includes a negative inductance
> circuit.   That way it behaves just like a tuned circuit, while also being
> broadband, and building up huge sine waves of any incoming frequency.
>
> I think these weird VLF devices are ignored because if they show
> unexpected results, everyone insists that it's just self-oscillation, some
> sort of unexplained circuit-instability, and couldn't possibly be caused
> by the physics of high-Q receiving antennas.  (The situation is analogous
> to having a real FE device, but where it required batteries in order to
> produce the bizarre effect.  Nobody will believe that it's real,
> regardless of measurements.   The presence of a DC power supply is
> driving skeptics crazy.)
>
> Heh, so just use a Sutton-Spaniol antenna to extract enough ambient VLF
> power that we can close-the-loop and power the several FET op-amp stages.
> Let the antenna-coil grow warm.  Plus a bank of light bulbs too?
>
> PS
>
> Tesla secrets, dunno if I put them here before...
>
> 1. an incandescent light bulb will light up when held near a Tesla coil.
> Even a BD-10 hand-held "violet ray" T.C. can light a tungsten bulb via
> ionic impact (it's "Tesla carbon button" mode.)  But the bulb must contain
> hard vacuum, no argon gas.  Aquarium bulbs and lectern bulbs are that
> type.  So are the 7.5W and 15W "golf ball" incandescent lamps.
>
> In other words, when Tesla plugs a huge light-bulb into the Colorado
> Springs dirt (in that Beograd Tesla movie,)  that easily could have been
> real.  But you'd need a pre-1930s antique light bulb, if you wanted to try
> it today.
>
> 2. I recently realized that the secondary of a Tesla coil is also a
> microwave resonator.  The stack of windings is a dielectric transmission
> line, a conductor of displacement current.  In pulse mode, and running at
> high voltage, it could put out VHF or even GHZ pulses of stunning peak
> wattage.  How?  It's because a single cylindrical coil is the same as a
> stack of parallel-plate capacitors in series, like a tall stack of
> electrically-floating copper disks.  EM pulses jump directly from disk to
> disk, going at a foot per nanosecond (that for a coil in air, slower for
> one embedded in urethane varnish.  That's the usual physics of a
> resonator, when operating far above resonance.  And also, a long long
> stack of close-spaced metal disks is an odd type of transmission line, and
> can guide EM waves.
>
> Far below resonance, The same secondary coil acts like a very long wire,
> where an EM wave has to follow the length of the spiralling wire (perhaps
> becoming a 200KHz quarter-wave resonant stub.)
>
> So, when Tesla discharged his coils, using a megavolt spark-gap (with all
> plasma-streamers inhibited,) he was exploring a regime of few-nanosecond
> pulses, with peak currents similar to that of huge capacitor banks, and
> peak-powers of unknown megawatts.  Hundreds, thousands of megawatts?  But
> only five or ten nanoseconds duration, as the "discharge wave" proceeds
> down his extra-coil at lightspeed.   It's not a coil, instead it's a
> capacitor with very thick dielectric, where a discharge is mostly a
> displacement-current between the parallel wires.
>
> He reported having discharges which violently exploded his wooden coil
> structures.  But today the big tesla coils never do that!  (Big tesla
> coils are supposed to make fractal lightning bolts.  Tesla considered this
> a malfunction.  Yet today, if your large tesla coil DOESN'T make any
> fractal lightning bolts, you'll consider THAT a malfunction.)
>
> So, build a ten kilowatt TC, suppress all lightning, then crank up the
> power, and see if instead it makes deafening bangs, and dangerous plastic
> shrapnel.  But perhaps you'd need a megavolt spark-gap in order to see
> this sort of discharge, while suppressing the slow-growing plasma-
> streamers.  Your secondary has become a half-megavolt capacitor bank.
> (What's the series microfarads of the secondary of a floor-standing tesla
> coil, if all the turns are sliced, so they behave as a tall stack of
> separate rings?  Knowing that, we could calculate the stored joules, and
> the peak power in a few-nanoseconds pulse.  Try all this stuff at 20V
> first, with mercury-wetted contacts, oscilloscope compatible.)
>
>
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