Another AI warning

https://dnyuz.com/2023/05/01/the-godfather-of-a-i-leaves-google-and-warns-of-danger-ahead/

On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 5:21 PM H L V <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fire is beautiful and powerful but it is also dangerous. Fire seems to be
> alive.
> AI is like a new fire. I worry about naive people or pyros setting
> cognitive fires. We will need trained artists
> who understand how this new fire works on the mind.
>
> Harry
>
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 4:21 PM Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Consider these are nascent programs.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023, 4:13 PM H L V <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Amazing ...but also read this exchange between the commenter Sprawl and
>>> the artists KromAI which was posted below the video.
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> The Sprawl
>>> 10 days
>>> Honestly, watching this video felt like a truly seismic moment for me.
>>> It made me realise something profound that I hadn't really realised before.
>>> For some reason with this video - because I've seen AI produced art before
>>> on YT but it didn't hit me like this did - I suddenly grasped what AI will
>>> do for the future of art. The power of AI really became apparent. And the
>>> implications terrify and entrance me. Can you tell me a little of how you
>>> curated these images? I want to know how much of your human eye was used to
>>> sift through bad images and pick the good ones, because that is directly
>>> related to how good at its job the AI is, and if you have to sift through a
>>> lot of rubbish to arrive at images like this then it's less impressive - so
>>> part of me is almost hoping you tell me that you did a lot of curation and
>>> cherrypicking, because then the implications for human artists and human
>>> art aren't quite so terrifying. Also, I'd love to know what parameters you
>>> need to set in order for the AI to spit out images like this. Do you just
>>> feed it a big dataset of Giger and Dune artwork and then press a button? Or
>>> do you have to set certain parameters, certain framing decisions, where
>>> certain objects are in the shot etc.? Amazing video, whatever your answers
>>> are. I'm genuinely shaken.
>>>
>>> KhromAI
>>> 10 days ago
>>> Hello The Sprawl, Thank you for your thoughtful comment. We're thrilled
>>> that our video had such a profound impact on you, giving you a glimpse into
>>> the future of AI and art. In creating these images, we used Midjourney, an
>>> AI image generation tool. We experimented with various complex prompts to
>>> generate the initial outputs, based on a dataset of Giger and Dune artwork.
>>> It took several attempts to achieve the desired images that aligned with
>>> our vision and some postprocessing in photoshop. Our human touch came into
>>> play when curating the final set of images for the video. We carefully
>>> selected the most suitable images from the AI-generated outputs. This
>>> process highlights the synergy between AI and human creativity, where AI
>>> serves as a tool to assist and inspire artists, rather than replacing them.
>>> We're glad you found our video amazing, and we appreciate your curiosity
>>> about the process. Feel free to reach out if you have any more questions or
>>> concerns. Thank you for your support!
>>>
>>> The Sprawl
>>> 9 days ago (edited)
>>>  @KhromAI  I really did find it amazing. For some reason - maybe because
>>> Giger's work sank into my subconscious at an early age with Alien(and I
>>> thought Villeneuve's Dune was visually extraordinary too) - this video was
>>> qualitatively different in its impact from any of the other, similar AI
>>> videos I've seen. Thanks for the explanation - that was what I suspected.
>>> It confirmed my beliefs about what artistic creation and good art really
>>> is, and to me it has to be some form of communication between conscious
>>> beings, with intents. If there's no intent behind something, if it's just a
>>> pattern that the wind blew in the sand, then it just doesn't qualify. It
>>> could be an extraordinarily beautiful pattern but it wouldn't count. And
>>> that's what a purely AI-generated piece of art would be: a pattern in the
>>> sand. Without at least some form of human curation it fails. It has no
>>> intention or meaning. So there's a part of me that's quite confident that
>>> art isn't in trouble. But this video still made me very uneasy. Something
>>> in my worldview wobbled a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 3:45 PM Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the style of H.R. Giger
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/mcCZftSbges
>>>>
>>>> (5  min,)
>>>>
>>>

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