On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 4:06 PM MSF <foster...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now that we have learned about all there is to learn about the acquisition 
> and preservation of dry ice, I think you're right about this test. The double 
> parabola test you initially proposed would not have proved or disproved 
> cooling radiation. The dry ice at the focus would have been a radiative heat 
> sink and would have lowered the temperature at the other focus. At least 
> that's my opinion of it.
>

When this double parabola experiment was originally done over 200
years Marc-Auguste Pictet came to a similar conclusion while at the
same time Count Rumford saw it as evidence of cooling radiation. I
proposed that a single elliptical reflector could yield a clearer
answer, but it is harder to make than a parabolic reflector.


> The simpler test you propose really demonstrates the idea of cooling 
> radiation as its own wave phenomenon, if it exists.
>

Using the sky as a source of cold is my idea, but Count Rumford went
on to indoor experiments with a cone and some ice. His cone was made
of polished brass I believe and was similar to speaking tubes which
were used as hearing aids at the time. He reported finding a cooling
effect using a thermoscope placed at the small end of the cone, but
the details are vague and nobody else seems to have tried to repeat
his experiment.

Harry

> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
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> On Monday, January 24th, 2022 at 5:35 PM, H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > From a fabrication standpoint here is an even simpler test for cooling
> >
> > radiation.
> >
> > It consists of a truncated cone lined with reflective mylar on the
> >
> > inside. The wide end is open to the sky and a thermometer is located
> >
> > at the vertex of the cone.
> >
> > See diagram:
> >
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p7coRgUqwzMGw40DhUQzJACCyHrd8EL5/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > If cooling radiation does not exist then the temperature of the
> >
> > thermometer should be about the same or perhaps slightly warmer when
> >
> > the cone is above it.
> >
> > However, if cooling radiation is real and has wave-like properties
> >
> > then the cone should focus the cooling radiation from the sky onto the
> >
> > thermometer and lower its temperature.
> >
> > Harry
>

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