In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:04:54 +0100: Hi, [snip] >In fact there are no real electron orbits. The bound electron is in magnetic >resonance with the nucleus This is the only way to get the correct result for >the ionization energy.
Here you say "The bound electron is in magnetic resonance with the nucleus" >The Hydrogen ionization energy can be calculated without Coulomb and charge >radius by a simple magnetic resonance formula. See SO(4) physics. >The Bohr/QM formula is just the first order approximation. > >So no real(singular) angular momentum change as there is no particle like >electron just the resonant waves. Here you say "there is no particle like electron just the resonant waves" ...so does the electron exist or doesn't it? Or only sometimes? >The waves form a symmetric orbit that from all sides looks the same. This is >also what we see in optics - given a homogeneous grid. > >J.W. > >On 25.01.2021 23:31, Robin wrote: >> In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:59:04 +0100: >> Hi Jürg, >> [snip] >>> People always think that quanta are fix size. This is not the case. >> That depends on which quantity you are talking about. >> >>> Of course are all electron orbits related by simple quantization rules >>> that again are acting within second order coupling. >>> >>> So there are lines for certain well known isotopes e.g. the yellow of >>> Na. But theies lines have a certain thickness, the same as you would >>> draw it with fat pencil. >> True. >> >>> Photons can only go into resonance with a line if these match the orbit, >>> else these get ejected after a "halve turn + angle". >> I think that perhaps resonance is not enough. The change in angular momentum >> of the electron also has to match that of >> the photon if the photon is to be absorbed or emitted. Otherwise any atomic >> transition would be possible. >> Both energy and angular momentum need to be conserved for the >> electron/photon pair. >> >>> Do also not forget that we live around 290K where all atoms (outer shell >>> electrons/ chemical bonds) carry excess energy! >> Most of this energy is in the form of kinetic energy of the entire >> atom/molecule, which is the primary reason that the >> lines undergo Doppler broadening. >> IOW the line width changes with temperature. >> [snip] >> >>
