Harry- Wiki is of no help in in understanding spin, Dpon seems to be a quantized dimension—like space; but not continuous.
In science who decides what is intrinsic? Is space also a thing with INTRINSIC magnetic an electric properties? Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: H LV<mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 11:33 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hotspn's quwastion RE anfular momenrum energy-- It does seem strange for Hotson's professor to insist electron spin is an "inherent property" if the only way for pair production to preserve CoM and CoE is in the presence of a nucleus which undergoes recoil. In this regard it is worth reading the brief wiki page on the difference between intrinsic and extrinsic properties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrinsic_and_extrinsic_properties It seems to me that if a property is believed to be either intrinsic or extrinsic, such a belief might constrain our ability to improve our understanding of the world. Harry On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 7:15 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> <bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Harry--- Physics is still begging for a model to connect a quantum of spin AM with energy. LENR would be solved, since atomic spin and nuclear spin AM and orbital AM energy could all be conserved. Jurg Wyttenbach is working on a mode that t may make the calculation of a system phase change with conservation b of AM a and energy possible. A variable B magnetic field could variable AM and total energy to allow conservation of these system parameters. Many atoms may comprise the system that accommodates shch c a phase change. AN/energy states are key . (Lattttic phonic AM and energy are pertinent.) Bob Cook PS: Please excuse my spelling etc. I just had eye surgwey. ---------------------- Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 10:27 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:18 PM Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com<mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:07 PM JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote: If one is a follower of Don Hotson If one wants to be, And for those who do not, let me see if this sidebar from the first paper can change your mind. The Hotson “family business” is English literature. Mr. Hotson’s father and uncle had Harvard Ph.D.s in the subject, and his late uncle was a famous Shakespeare scholar. Mr. Hotson, however, always intended a career in physics. Unfortunately, he could not resist asking awkward questions. His professors taught that conservation of mass-energy is the never-violated, rock-solid foundation of all physics. In “pair production” a photon of at least 1.022 MeV “creates” an electron-positron pair, each with 0.511 MeV of rest energy, with any excess being the momentum of the “created” pair. So supposedly the conservation books balance. But the “created” electron and positron both have spin (angular momentum) energy of h/4π. By any assumption as to the size of electron or positron, this is far more energy than that supplied by the photon at “creation.” “Isn’t angular momentum energy?” he asked a professor. “Of course it is. This half-integer spin angular momentum is the energy needed by the electron to set up a stable standing wave around the proton. Thus it is responsible for the Pauli exclusion principle, hence for the extension and stability of all matter. You could say it is the sole cause of the periodic table of elements.” “Then where does all this energy come from? How can the ‘created’ electron have something like sixteen times more energy than the photon that supposedly ‘created’ it? Isn’t this a huge violation of your never-violated rock-solid foundation of all physics?” “We regard spin angular momentum as an ‘inherent property’ of electron and positron, not as a violation of conservation.” “But if it’s real energy, where does it come from? Does the Energy Fairy step in and proclaim a miracle every time ‘creation’ is invoked, billions of times a second? How does this fit your never-violated conservation?” “‘Inherent property’ means we don’t talk about it, and you won’t either if you want to pass this course.” Well, this answer sounded to him like the Stephen Leacock aphorism: “‘Shut up,’ he explained.” Later Mr. Hotson was taken aside and told that his “attitude” was disrupting the class, and that further, with his “attitude,” there was no chance in hell of his completing a graduate program in physics, so “save your money.” He ended up at the Sorbonne studying French literature, and later became a professional land surveyor. However, he has retained a lifelong interest in the “awkward questions” of physics, and with Dirac’s Equation has found some answers <end> I hope he had the last laugh.
