To end this lengthy discourse with a second reply; I shall shorten this considerably, although many investigations have now been done to formulate a more comprehensive solution for certain effects being noted in the loosely coupled resonant transfer of amperage above the resistive ratio. Brian Alan Whatcott replied "I expect you have in mind the air-core transformer, where the controlling relation is NOT resistance of a coil (unless both coils have the same resistance per unit length.) Rather, what controls the relationship between two coils in respect of their ac VOLTAGE is the number of turns each coil contains, and their ratio.After my own analysis where here I am looking at effects between somewhat identical coils I concluded that my original synopsis is correct when the internal capacities of the coils are factored in as reductions of oscillations are considered.Harvey D Norris's answer to If the resistance between air core sending and receiving coils is one to seven should their maximum output amperage ratio also be 1/7th? - Quora
| | | | Harvey D Norris's answer to If the resistance between air core sending a... | | | In the former case the differences between actual amperage that developes compared to the prediction made by resistive ratios of components was assumed to be due to time dilation of secondary @ calculations of dq/dt, where dt was reduced to .48 whose reciprocal is 2.08. This means that the resultant amperage was 2.08 times greater then the resistive ratio prediction. By applying the exponential relation instead as a governing factor for the (6.8/1) reduction after the new exact no.s of 6.8/1 were applied the advance from the resistive prediction, given a 18% reduction between I(ideal) and I (real) cases for this coil, that ratio was calculated out to 2.13. What this means then is that those amperage results are explainable without having to presume a time distortion effect. However in retrospect the energy ratio difference between sending and receiving states of 1.89 may also enter the picture. Enough for now... HDN Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Friday, May 8, 2020, 7:03:53 PM EDT, Harvey Norris [email protected] [teslafy] <[email protected]> wrote: Twin Versions of RealityBeing somewhat ahead of the "common joe" in making these observations, I should first say that this is not my first rodeo. And comparisons to the former version of reality to the present one now present itself. Now if two measurements of reality differ in results, we may automatically assume that one is correct over the other, and furthermore the incorrect observation of reality should have some explanations for it's deduction. In this regard then a former study and conclusions for the phenomenon are shown and discussed in the first rodeo; the relationships between a 12 lb. 23 gauge coil and a 75 lb. one. Forward & Reverse Operations of 60hz Resonant Transformations. Forward & Reverse Operations of 60hz Resonant Transformations. | | | | | | | | | | | Forward & Reverse Operations of 60hz Resonant Transformations. Fwd operation is from a 12 lb 23 gauge primary @ 126 ohms to a ~75 lb 23 gauge secondary @860 ohms. Amperage and... | | | "In the reverse operation a reciprocal loss in moving the energy from a small capacity to a larger one can be shown. " Examinations of ratios shown by extractions of this video shows that this presupposition is false. A reciprocal ratio is replaced by a time distortion ratio as shown by forward and reverse operations for comparisons of ratios . Now in the new situation compared to the former, a resistive ratio @ 6.8 /1 one was formed between the coils, and because currents developed on the larger secondary whereby twice that developed then should by that resistive ratio a deduction was made;"It can be speculated that a 50% time dilation occurs for the resonant transformation case shown here. The amperage meter actually records the rate of coulombs of charge crossing the cross sectional area per TIME PERIOD. which is noted as dq/dt. If dt is compressed to half of its source sending value, dq/dt will be doubled. This is noted as a doubling from the amp value that would be applied if the resistive ratio of 6.8/1 were applied to the reduction. Essentially here we have an increase of the L ratio with a corresponding decrease of the I squared ratio. This decrease however is itself countered by an amperage increase due to the time dilation which can be proved by the opposite analogy of actions that should take place if the process were reversed" Later then the relation of resistance to the outcome of the currents seems to be made irrevalent.If the resistance between air core sending and receiving coils is one to seven should their maximum output amperage ratio also be 1/7th? - Quora | | | | If the resistance between air core sending and receiving coils is one to... | | | My thinking on the matter (since VI~=I^2R at resonance) is that the 1/7th ratio should apply to the I squared quantity, not the linear I one involved in inversely proportional relationship where VI(in)= VI(out). To find the maximum induced amperage for a one amp input, since R is increased by seven; then to counter I squared should be reduced by seven. I(max) then will have to be the square root of that I squared seven fold reduction. Starting from 1 A as the input; sq rt[1/7] =.378. compared to 1/7= .143. Thus I(max) could be .378/.143= 2.64 times greater then what would by had by the linear transformation assumption. Apparently I made errant assumptions based on a linear case, when in actuality it appears to be an exponential one.Further comment; Several complications ensue here, but it would appear that a symmetrical relationship exists whereby the ratio of I^2R power loss between primary and secondary is matched by the ratio of increase of amperage from the loaded state to the unloaded. thus a 66% power ratio difference would be matched by a 66% increase in amperage in going from the loaded to unloaded state. Thus given the primary amperage under load: and also knowing the ratio of relative resistances between the two; this cannot determine what amount of secondary amperage that will occur until the open load primary amperage is known; which in turn determines the efficiency of delivery. In this case example then the delivery of .378 amps from a 1 amp input would only occur at maximum energy transfer, and this would also mean that the open circuit primary would then read twice it’s loaded state of 1 A. This hoi poloi takes awhile to digest, and in any case the next objection was also disproven; that the increase of oscillation on receiving station vs sending one governed the relativistic effect taking place, where this was also disproven and shown in some flicker jpeg's 28 volt input capt | | | | | | | | | | | 28 volt input capt Here at a 28 volt 60 hz AC input 117.5 ma input into a 126 ohm primary occurs after passing energy into the 860... | | | SSo in any case the old explanations dont pan out.In the new cases of interacting two large 75 lb. induction coils when the neighbor is engaged for induction each side looses vibration, but this is offset by a greater oscillation occuring by the neighboring coil between these closely matched resistance coils. In other words the gain on the partner is greater then the loss of the sender for both sides of observation. And that observation of the currents on each side due to induction from the source are identical. Can't finish this yet for the test for twin views of reality, but this will be continued into the future... HDN Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ On Monday, May 4, 2020, 8:50:37 PM EDT, Harvey Norris [email protected] [teslafy] <[email protected]> wrote: Comparisons of time distortion by frequency drift on neon discharges | | | | | | | | | | | Comparisons of time distortion by frequency drift on neon discharges Here large 75 lb,23 gauge coils placed into 60 hz resonance enable neon discharges across their voltage rises. A... | | | Predecessor Info on sending coil High induction coil resonance @ 60 hz shows Q~ 13. 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